366. - Soccer Mommy

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. Chris Black coming to you live from West Hollywood, California. Lots of breaking news today, Jason. Oh, shit. Hell yeah. I feel like I'm in L.A. This is cool. I know. I know. Jason is away sunning himself on holiday. I'm, of course, forcing him to work. Rest in peace to James Kahn, a legendary Hollywood stick man. Jimmy Kahn. Rest in peace to Rafael Nadal, who had to drop out. of the Wimbledon semifinals due to a torn abdomen, Jason. Doesn't that sound painful? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I mean, I've seen his abs and they always tore, but I wanted to know, because I didn't know this. I've been off the grid, so I had no idea there was an injury. Yeah, he just announced that he has to retire. So Kyrgios moves on to the finals, baby. Okay, but you say retired. That means this tournament not full life. Yeah, yeah, that's the proper term. I just had a scare. Okay, damn, torn abdomen. So he's just whipping that backhand so gnarly that... Honestly, it must be. Like, I don't know how you do that. I thought that was kind of like what happens if cool sculpting goes wrong. But this ain't Drake. This is Rafa, a known A-plus athlete here. An A-plus athlete, but he's got an expiration date on him just like everyone else, and the clock's ticking on them abs. I saw a Cool Sculpting commercial when I was watching Fox News last night because I got regular TV. I got to say, this 90-second Cool Sculpting spot, I was like, yeah, I get it. I get it, too. I don't know how much it costs. That's the thing. I think it's one of those things that it can cost.

It's like dental work. You could probably go to NYU and get a CoolSculpting student to do it for cheap. Like when we got our Biologique Recherche. Exactly. We got the starter pack. But maybe if you're doing CoolSculpting and you got a little bread, you're going to want to go to wherever Chloe goes. Certain things you don't want to cut costs on and CoolSculpting be one of them. Yeah, it doesn't seem like something. But there's some other news out of New York that I know you're going to take pretty tough. Okay. There was a stabbing in a bodega. This is not going to be hashtag Amiri, is it? That's right. A guy didn't like the price of some chips, so he walked behind the glass and he said, these cool ranch too much. You must have me fucked up if you think I'm going to spend $375. He got wetted up by the Muslim bodega guy who stabbed in the neck. Yeah, man. He looked like... He's dead. He's dead. Bollywood Conor McGregor, he put the stick to him, man. He looked like Conor McGregor's leg that day. But, I mean, that's an act of self-defense, and he should not have been charged with murder. He's at Rikers. It's crazy. He should not have been charged with murder. That sucks. Because it's all on camera right there. That's self-defense, buddy. But the problem is, Jason, the assailant is wearing an Amiri logo tee. Yes. It seems to be bedazzled. I'm afraid that this could affect your favorite rock star skinny brand. And I'm worried that maybe you're going to have to take a break from wearing it for the next six to eight months while things kind of cool down. It is a little hot right now. I get that. Because normally when you have... It's not just Palm Springs. It's a little hot right now for Amiri. Normally when you have a clothing item worn by, you know, tough guys, killers, gangsters, murderers, whatever, that's only going to up the value, the lore, the street credit of all that. But if this guy is taking an L to... Big L. Grandpa. RIP. The ultimate L, his life, he killed him, right? Yeah, bro, he killed his ass. So if you take an L in Amiri, the stock is going down. Yeah. I'm no longer bullish.

No. Yeah, I don't care if there's 10% stretch in those ripped skinnies. I can't be caught right now. If he was wearing Philip Plyne, you already know it would have gone a different way. Oh, yeah, there'd be a lot of bodies in that place. He'd put the knife into the neck, and man would be like, is that all you got? What? If I wanted to kiss, I'd call your mom. Damn, but it's tough. Because this is what happens. You know, somebody dies in a nightclub, nightclub never fully retires, or excuse me, recovers from that. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. A scarlet letter. Yeah, I mean, somehow the OD in the bathroom at So House was recoverable. I don't know, because that's an OD. That's kind of his fault. Out of my hands. Yeah, but somebody gets shot outside of... I remember in Atlanta, I feel like somebody got shot outside of Tung and Groove. Tung and Groove had to change names. Sometimes you've got to crash that plane. We have to rebrand. The worst part is when you have to do that because some guy lit a fire. And you're like, oh, great. This is the place that was always lit on fire. I'm not going there anymore. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Your insurance scam ain't my problem, chief. Yeah. So how is it going down there? How's the base tan? Have you made it through more than three pages of a book? What's the TJ vacation report? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got... What's that sunscreen... Vacation? How did you already know? Because I... You're a brand master. I'm a brand master. I mean, I don't personally love smelling capina colada, but... The packaging and design is so good that I have to use the product. Dude, it's got Stranger Things vibes. You know what I'm saying? It's giving Stranger Things vibes. Hashtag Stranger Things vibes. Season five, bro. We need season five. Dude, if you thought running up that hill was good, wait till you hear the real fucking music. Master of Puppets. Oh, you pussies like Kate Bush? You ever heard Metallica? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's different now, bro. It's different. So I have the vacation.

The oil, the sun, the SPF oil. Bro, that's a little, you got to be careful with that, Chief. Because I got the lotion on the face. I paint the face with the white, and then the clear goes all over my body. The thought of you oiling up is really – because you got too much canvas, bro. You need Picasso to help you. You can't do that shit solo. Yeah, you don't need a brush. You need a broom. Have you met the funny guy I told you about, the hotel, like the German guy who doesn't understand anything? No. There are no German people here at all. I don't know if he's actually German. He works there. But I want you to ask him to kind of hit your back with the oil. If he appears, you'll recognize him because he's like... Hey, Klaus, up top. No, I haven't seen him yet. I mean, based on your story... Will help, Klaus. Will help. Based on your stories of him, I think it's safe to assume that he may have been let go from his position over here. Do you think the owner of the hotel listens to How Long Gone and kind of took that as a filed complaint? He's like, this guy's too hot. How Long Gone's already talking about him. I had a bad feeling about him. No, no, so I got that. I'm oiled up just because that's all we got. I think we forgot regular sunscreen. I mean, I don't give a shit. It's tough. I do have the Oris bar soap. I brought it out here as a treat, so it's like bar soap summer right now. It's bar soap. You know it's bar soap only on this has been that way. There's nothing. If you use body wash and you're a man. Well, that's, I mean, because I use body wash as a man, and when I'm on holiday, I will... Chief, you're telling me that you use a loofah, bro? I use an exfoliating Japanese towel. I believe it's called an oishi. Shout out to oishi. Okay, yeah. I'm familiar with the oishi family. I ain't using a wet towel in the bath, though. Nah. But I do love a loofah. You want to talk about exfoliation? We're going to get there. No, if you want to talk about exfoliation, Jason, you would dry brush before the shower. Let's keep it 100. I'm not a horse, bro. No. I mean, you should be. That's why they got the nicest. I mean, you got hair like a horse, but that's just your Latinx background. I got that good. This ain't horse hair, sis. This is that good good. I have, where was I? You keep interrupting. I'm sorry. You took bar soap with you on vacation? Okay, so the good people at Oris sent over a bunch of soap. It smells amazing, but since I'm not a bar boy like you.

I packed it into my Weekender, my Herschel Weekender duffel, and I was like, let's try this on. And it's been great. It's a fun smell. The only problem is since I have the vacation oil, the bar soap is having a tough time cleaning up this slick. You know what I mean? I mean, bro, that's... So it's like two different DTC startups are fighting on my body. Wow, that's actually... What else is new, honey? That's pretty hot. I hope you're not... I hope you didn't bring soft services queen of the castle down there to kind of kick these losers out. Oh, no, no. I would never do that. I would never disrespect sis like that. Jeez, this is crazy. I actually... I need to update you on a dinner I had last night as well. It's like this every week. And Silver Lake I've never been to before, which was a shock to my dining companions, Ryan O'Connell and Carly Sortino. Okay. You're familiar with Blair's, I'm sure. Yeah, I am familiar with Blair's. That's where 50-year-old lesbian showrunners have... lobster mac you know yeah but i liked it but it's fire yeah i just i can't believe i'd never been there and ryan was like i can't believe you've never been there it only took of course 30 minutes to get there um but otherwise oh okay i don't want to hear it bro it takes me like 45 to get to san vicente yeah but san vicente bungle that's this that's the heart that's the core of los angeles you know what i mean like I judge everything like how long is the walk to Soho. I'm not like how far is Greenpoint. That doesn't even compute to me. You know what I mean? Are these all places in Montana? I don't know what you're talking about. The fact that neither of us are in Sun Valley right now with the leaders of this country. The real leaders, you know what I'm saying? The fact that I'm not out there building with Diller and the Dior is absolutely crushing. I would literally wipe his ass to be there. You know what I mean? Like I, I don't know what it's going to take, Jason, but we got to get an invite. Okay. So this is like, it's a, it's like summer camp retreat thing for like the, the billionaire superpowers that run our world. Yes. Not the actual, not that, not actual president, sleepy Joe Biden, but it's the, it's the real, it's the people who are put in changing his diapers. You know, it's like they go to things like this in succession a few times, right? Yeah. It's a hundred percent that it's like, you know, there's like a,

a campfire roundtable, you know, where they're sharing kind of like what's going to happen and, you know, they're going to talk about clean energy. There was literally an article in the New York Times about how difficult it is that week for the tiny airport to navigate the amount of private jets. Oh, gee. That's a story that gets you more excited than just about anything, I'm assuming. It's actually, it was a really interesting story because it talks like the guy who runs the airport. It was actually pretty crazy. He's like, yeah, man, I don't know. None of the neighbors complain. Because it's like these guys spend so much money for a week. It's like Coachella for Indio Valley. It's a minor inconvenience for a weekend, but it pays for everything. But we got to get invited. I don't know if there's kind of like, I'm sure Kara Swisher or someone is like the podcaster they invite. Let's not forget about how long gone next year. Yeah, because I'm assuming if you've seen Succession, they do a thing there called Boar on the Floor, where you get all the world leaders together and you get a couple of young bucks to wrestle on the floor. It's like a weird power thing. Kara Swisher doesn't have hands like you, bro. Kara Swisher and I doused in vacation tanning oil. I'll take her on right now. It's no problem. Yeah, I will gladly square up with Kara Fisher. Kara Swisher. Do you think she can get served up a platter? She might not even take off. She probably could try to leave her aviators on for the match. Leave them on. You won't even see the two-piece that's about to come. We do have a guest today. You giving Kara Swisher a two-piece over at Sun Valley while Rupert Murdoch watches you? Not that piece. The one in the back. No, I understand. I understand. We do have a guest today. You probably know her as Soccer Mommy. Her name is Sophie Allison. She actually grew up in beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, and she's got some records that we really like. Honestly, the whole catalog I've been rinsing sometimes forever.

came out in June on Loma Vista. It was actually, you know, it was produced by Jason. I don't know if you knew this. Well, no tricks point ever. The God, that's why it's a full lush soundscape. The goat. And our friend Kevin Lombardo, actually, Kevin, Jason, who DJed the Woolrich event, directed the first single of the video from this. Well, son of a bitch, man. Small world, baby. Small world. I feel like soccer mommy, my mommy. Mommy. All right, but yeah, so let's talk to Sophie. and find out what the fuck is going on. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. And, I mean, it... How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture, repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. You can search for a tasker based on cost, skill set, availability, and past client reviews so you know exactly who's showing up and can have confidence that they know what they're doing because taskers have assembled over 3.4 million pieces of furniture, completed 700,000 home repairs. handled 1.5 million moves, and the numbers are just going up, Jason. Yeah, throw a little money at the problem. It's not so expensive, and that job that you really don't want to do is something that another person out in the world is very good at doing and would gladly do it in exchange for a little bit of money. So when life happens, your to-do list grows. Get ahead of it now and get $15 off your first task at TaskRabbit.com or grab the TaskRabbit app. using promo code howlong. Taskers book up faster, especially for same-day tasks. So book trusted home help today. That is $15 off your first task using promo code howlong with the TaskRabbit app or at TaskRabbit.com. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace.

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All right. What's really good? We have a wired it girl on our hands at How Long Gone Today. Sophie Allison, a.k.a. Soccer Mommy. Are you coming to us from a dark bedroom? That's exactly where I am. I'm literally in my bed. You know, I used to podcast from bed as well. Who is that? This is Snorlax. Wait, are you in a hotel or is this a house? No, this is literally my house. You have a nice looking house. Thank you. Tasteful? Modern? Yeah. Who did you hire to do the interiors? What architect did we work with? I hired the people that I got the house from. Okay. And they did a lot of the built-in stuff. Really cheap. Everything came with it. That's sick. Yeah, I like this. I used to podcast from bed as well, and I found it. It put the guests off sometimes, but when the guest does it, it's a nice twist. You know what I mean? I'm not going to go sit in an empty room at a desk. in my house wow okay don't come for me okay wow okay well some you know depending on the guests if they see chris in bed they might think that this is like you know he's being a bit forward or something i'm being yeah yeah we used to also sometimes during the summer in la it gets so hot you know we'll be shirtless maybe and it's just it's a it's just the nature of the beast it doesn't mean anything zoom is it's taken away in my opinion any um Professional. Like decorum. Level. Yeah. It's like we're all trying to hide things when we have the camera off. You know, like the chicken we're eating. The iced coffee. How did you know we were just talking about chicken before? But we all know what's going on. We all know what this is. That's brave. I heard a story last night actually about like a writer's room situation where there was a guy who would. It was like 12 people on Zoom, and he would just, when he was trying to think, he would like take his shirt off and just pace around smoking weed, but they could see him on the camera. Yeah, the camera's on. Yeah, and they're like, bro, you can't really do, you're kind of throwing off the vibe in here. You know what I mean? You can't really do that. Yeah, it's getting weird. Yeah, exactly, but he seemed to, that was part of his process. You know what I mean? So if you want to smoke a cig, if you want to smoke a cig in bed, there's no judgment. I actually, I enjoy the, like,

Like trying to eat a meal while on a phone call without them knowing. That's your like Mission Impossible like laser thing? Yeah, it's like I have to like perfectly time like a bite of the sandwich. So what are some of the best foods to eat that go undetected audio-wise? Yeah, we need to. This is good stuff. Oh, I mean. Porridge? Oh, wow. I mean, yogurt, great. Okay. Easy. But I honestly think it's. I think it's good to like go into the danger, like try to eat a bag of chips. Oh, wow. Okay. See what happens. So you want to increase the difficulty level or else it's not fun. Yeah. Yeah. I think it gets, it gets interesting. Um, no one's going to be like, are you eating? No one's going to do that. Why not? I mean, that's what happens on television. Because it's uncomfortable. And also, you could just say no. Yeah, that's a great point. So you're saying, I hear you crunching. Don't sleep on lying. Yeah, I'm like eating a croissant. I'm just like... Don't sleep on lying. I just see you munching chips. I'm like, are you eating chips? And you just say no, and that's where it happens. Where does it go from there? I was just breathing, actually. Where does it go from there? We've actually done a few podcasts where the guests ate entire meals. Sometimes it was cute and funny, and sometimes it was a little offensive. It would deliver my sandwich right when we were recording as a power move. Yeah, exactly. It worked, though. It got me excited. Yeah, I think they were flexing. They were flexing on us to see how we would react. And you know what? We... I think we held it together, Jason, in that instance. That was the lunch meeting, you know. Yeah, I love it. You seem like a power lunch type, so I'm sure you kind of... Oh, yeah. What's your Soho House Nashville membership looking like? Was it free? Oh, my gosh. I wish I had one. I don't think it's that hard for you to get one. There's no way that someone isn't... After listening to this podcast, you're about to get blessed with a Soho House. Are you willing to do an unplugged set in the lobby at 530? Because I can get this thing done today. You guys are joking about that, but I literally just did.

a solo set at Soho House. And they didn't give you a free membership? No. That's crazy. I did get to go. I mean, that day I got to go up to the pool and just watch nobody swim. We talked about recently how somebody died at that Soho house, and they still kind of keep carrying on. Where? I believe it was like this. Don't play dumb with us, Sophie. I don't know why. I just assumed you meant in the pool. That makes more sense. But he was in a bathtub, which if you're going to OD, is a good place to do it, I think. Oh, yeah. Soho house, it's an enigma to me. I don't know. My friend got. almost kicked out of soho house in nashville for taking a video of himself dancing because i guess they don't like photos yeah yeah photos photos are photos are discouraged i actually i actually like that yeah as a wall that's because you're a celeb people should be able to no no that's not what i mean people just kidding i'm just kidding people should be able to do whatever they want but at the same time I don't want to take any photos. Sure. So you want to be able to... No, I agree. I'm with you. I want people to do Coke off the table and that be their business in a public setting. I completely agree. Well, I'm more like I want people to take a Snapchat if they want to. Are you... Hold on. Are you a Snapchat user? Oh, I'm not a user of anything. I'm a good girl. I'm a good girl. I don't have LinkedIn. I like how you... No, I do not have Snapchat. I haven't had Snapchat since I was about... 16. I like how you acted like Snapchat was a new drug no one heard of. I don't do that. No, I don't do that kind of stuff. That fentanyl Snapchat shit, I don't mess with that. I don't even know. If I got on Snapchat, I haven't had it in so long. I don't even know what it would look like, to be honest. I believe it's one of those things that people Jasonize age because we're more in our late 30s, early 40s. That's how old I am. I don't think so. No, you're not. Fuck you. That's really sweet, though.

People like us are like, oh, do people still use that? And then it's like anybody 15 under, that's the only thing they use? Well, I think people use it to buy weed. I'm serious. I'm serious. I think this is the only use that I have seen it be used for recently. It's copping grass. Only weed. Just drug dealing where all the messages are deleted and anonymous. People who are selling weed will be like... Because I'm in Tennessee. It's not like you can't go to a dispensary or something. So it's like someone's like... Just got this new, you know, new strain. Go ahead. Say the strain. Say the strain name. I'm like, just got that new, you know, Girl Scout cookies. Yes. There we go. Like $10 of, you know, whatever. And then you can, like, Snapchat them back and be like. Hey, I would like... I would like to purchase the Girl Scout cookies from you directly. Where can we exchange money for narcotics? I'm sending you a Snapchat message for one-eighth of Girl Scout cookies, please. No, I think that's really how it's used. I feel like my little brother still uses it to chat with people. What is your preferred social media network if you had to choose one gun to head? That's really hard because my favorite used to be Twitter, but I... I can't even go on that anymore. It's so upsetting. If you just unfollow Fox News, you're going to be fine. That's what I learned. Actually, so I was looking at your social media accounts earlier today in preparation, of course. The Twitter and the Instagram, the bios are very similar but very different. The Twitter bio says Gemini Realness, and the Instagram bio is Gemini Bitch. Do they really say different things? Yeah, that's cool. That's very cool. I don't run them anymore, so I can't remember. I mean, if you're a musician nowadays, like nine times out of ten, it's just like reposting Jimmy Kimmel videos, you know? Yeah, that's definitely it. And tour dates, you know? You're not spouting off your opinions. Every once in a while, I'll send my manager a selfie and be like, say, like vibing. And they post that and that, you know.

Get some activities, some traffic. I hope your manager's like a 50-year-old man in like an office in Beverly Hills. No, he's a youth. He's a youth. He's a youth. He gets it. And he's like, oh, this selfie's going to do fucking numbers. It is vibing. And then you're killing it. Then you catch those checks. Everyone's like, please come back. Well, did you... Now, was this like a thing that you were like, this just isn't good for me, so I'm going to give the reins to the suits? Yeah, it wasn't like I'm afraid to be canceled or anything. No, no, no. It's just not worth it? It was just not – it just wasn't enjoyable. Yeah. I don't know. It's not – at a certain point, it just wasn't even really my Instagram. It was like music stuff. Well, you can kind of – you can send us your burner accounts when we get off. That's kind of one of our – I do not have a burner. You don't even have a burner? Come on, bro. No, I just straight up – I play solitaire, and I play wordscapes, and that's – how i like to live my life now you're just a simple chick i've become like an you know like an 80 year old woman so and i love it it's awesome what's what's the knitting game looking like though i if i could knit i would be knitting every day i wouldn't be doing this music shit so you're saying you know i've spent a lot of time in nashville uh i'm from atlanta originally and i have a lot of friends there do you are you frequent in any hot spots are you you know are you Going to Rolf and Daughters for the Cacio e Pepe? Like, what are we doing down there? I have literally never been there. No, it's my local stuff, because I'm from here. It's more like I go to the places I've been going to since I was a child. They've known you before you got famous. Yeah, they know your name at the Chipotle on the Vanderbilt campus, and you kind of like to tap it over there. I would never eat Chipotle, okay? Really? Oh, come on. Maybe I shouldn't broadcast it. I don't know if this will ever be a problem down the line, but I had Chipotle one time, and I was just appalled. What happened to the insides of that bod? Nothing happened, but I thought it was just like eating salt. That's my biggest gripe as well. It's funny. I had it one time as well after kind of like a tragic event, and it was...

Interesting. It was nasty, but also I equate it with that, and I've never been back either. I've only had it one time, too. Yeah, I heard... You know how there's that thing where people are like, oh, if you're on tour, they'll give you free food? No, I haven't heard this before. That's a thing, apparently, if you say you're a touring band. Really? If you say you're a touring band. And so we were like, let's try it. And we went in, and I don't think we even got the food free. When you walk in, do you have to talk about band stuff loudly so they pick up on it? No, I think you have to be like... Like, you literally just kind of go up and you're like, so, you know, we heard about the... The deal. So you bring in, you have to bring in, you kind of have to show them your record contract, like the long form, you know, with the signatures and stuff. They're like, what do you guys call it? You're like, soccer mommy. They're like, I don't, it's not going to be free. I don't think that's real. Only if their van has been broken into recently, will we give you guacamole? Otherwise, not so much. Come on, you know she ain't in a van, Jason. Come on, dog. She's got the, what's the back of the bus looking like? Are you master suite? Bus. You ain't in a bus, really? A G5, G6? I'm in a Sprinter. See, the problem is that, you know, the Sprinter has created this bridge between the van and the bus. Yeah. I personally think it's annoying. I think it's time. I think you've got to ride the van until the wheels fall off and then jump to bus when the money's right. Well, I think the issue is, if we're going to get down to the nitty-gritty, is that the van can fit, like, comfortably. you know like the band and maybe one crew person maybe two one baby mama but so when you have a when you start having a couple more things and you need like a trailer and like You need all this extra stuff. You kind of like outgrow the van before you at bus level, like number of people wise, almost more than anything else. That makes sense. I see. So you're touring with a lot of personnel. You've got obviously your security. You've got guitar tech, drum tech, merch, tour manager. Do you have a driver or is the tour manager driving? Oh, my gosh. That's so many people that we don't have. Well, security was a joke, but the rest. We have like sound, flash, TM, merch.

person guitar stage tech five person band um and then like my manager will hop in a lot of the time so it's like yeah you kind of end up needing everybody has wives as well um yeah there's a there's a lot of marriage you need to that's because you're from nashville everybody gets married at 21 that's the problem no my band is older than me Actually. So you got some grizzled. I'm the youngest. You got some grizzled. I'm the youngest. Sophie, youngest in charge. Yeah. You got to tell these wife guys to leave their little jump-offs at home. The road's the road. Actually, I think I enjoy having the wives. You're a wife guy as well? I'm a wife as well. I'm not literally married, but I'm basically married. Okay. It's like wife time. You're the boss. You're the boss, though. So I'd be like, look, guys, the Sprinter's getting a little cramped. You got to send Sheila back to Nashville. Yeah, but we've said this before. Even the boss needs a day off. You know, I would love a day off. I actually think in the music industry, the boss gets the least days off. That's how it goes. It's the deal. That's the way it works. Now, is there like a plain style neck pillow in play? Are we bringing? I personally, I think that neck pillows are kind of bullshit. Speak on it, girl. Oh, okay. Let us know. Here's my thing. They don't hold your neck up. You still tilt one way. That's right. I agree. It's not beefy enough. I've been saying this for years. You're still going to get the neck crick. It's not doing anything. I love you saying it's not beefy enough. It's true. It's not. You need more beef so it's like your head. Can't turn either way. Instead, it's like this thin little thing, and it's like, so what? I'm just like this instead? Yeah, it's like a little bit better. Still don't throw my neck out. I'm aging over here. I can't have my neck. You're okay. What are you, 23? I think you're going to be okay. I'm 25. 25. Now, how does the body, what do we do to recover after rocking so hard? Are you a masseuse? Are you a cupping? You got an IV drip? Acupuncture? I don't do any of it. None of it? I don't do any of it.

Sophie, we've got to take care of ourselves. Who does your ketamine therapy? I get my boyfriend to crack my back. That ain't good enough. I know that's worse. I don't know what your boyfriend looks like, but I bet he's too skinny to really put... No, no. He gets the cracks. He gets after it. He's strong enough. And I can crack his back as well. I'll walk on it. Yeah, I love a walk. Walk is number one for me. I'll walk on the guys. Actually, it's less of a walk and more of a jump. Whoa. You know, like you kind of like... You're like, okay, breathe out on the counter. Are you wearing the Louboutins or the Vans? Oh, barefoot. I didn't know if he was kinky. He wanted a lot of paint. I like to get in there. It's a skin-on-skin connection. Yeah, you've got to have the natural curve of the back. I've done it. I've done it with a lot of the guys, actually, in the band. Sounds like you're carrying a lot of weight here. You know what I mean? No pun intended. It's like you're writing the songs. You're cracking backs. They don't make you drive, do they? They do not, but I do drive some. I kind of like to drive occasionally. If we're really trying to get somewhere, I'm like, let me. I don't want to sit in the back seat and wait. I want to know. Move. Move. When's the last time you had a vacay? Like a real one, you know? I took a vacay day in Barcelona. A day? Yeah. I don't know if that's enough time to really unwind completely. What do you think? I guess it's not, but I don't know. I travel so much, I don't love... Oh. Welcome home, brother. Like, you know, at the end of something, you do a long tour, you don't want to just go... Another place. Your beautiful house is the vacation. I'm the same one. That is the vacation. Yeah. I wish my life partner agreed. Well, mine is in the band, so we both enjoy coming home. Okay. Do you think he's listening to this right now? No, he's downstairs. No, I mean, like, will he listen to this episode and a future date? Doubtful. Okay, so he doesn't listen to How Long Gone, or he doesn't want to listen to you? Probably me. Okay, it could be both. It's fine. It's fine. No, like, it's more, we don't listen to a lot of podcasts in general. We just kind of, it's mostly music.

On vinyl? Yeah, some vinyl, some cassette. No, not cassette. Anything but Spotify. There's a newer medium that's... really cool that's been hit permanent called CDs. We actually released a CD on Jaguar last year. Yeah, we're indie musicians too, okay? Oh, okay, okay. We're pioneers of the CD movement. So you guys know about CDs. I've been talking about CDs since literally before you were born. Did they exist before I was born? Yes, they did. What year did they come out? Early 90s? Early 90s? Maybe like 91 or something like that? I don't know. I wasn't around for that. Which is all good. But you like CDs and you've discovered them and you're like, this is sick. It sounds good? I've discovered their music. Speaking of Gwen, she's got the Vegas residency thing going on. Does that look enticing to you when you're in the last innings of your musical career decades from now? Absolutely. I would totally do that. That'd be cool if you did it. I think you should do it now. I mean, honestly, imagine how nice that's got to be. They come to you. Yes, and literally every night, everything's set up. They just show up and play the thing. Honestly, the Harry Styles thing, he's doing 15 nights at MSG. Oh, my gosh. He's doing 15 nights at MSG, and then he's doing... 10 nights at the Forum in LA, and then he's doing it in London, and that's it. So that's 15 shows, one sound check. Sounds fucking good. Exactly. When you have a two-night stand, even, it's like... Save the settings, honey. Yeah, exactly. It's like, why don't you just turn that board back on, and let's get to it. Damn, okay. I'm actually, I'm going tomorrow alone to see Morrissey's residency in Las Vegas. That should be interesting. What's your stance on Morrissey? Morrissey sucks, but the Smiths are great. You mean his politics or his solo music? Kind of both. Don't do that. Do not do that to the solo career. There's some smashes in there. I don't think it's that. It's also just like, I think he's just a bit,

He's a knob. Exhausting. It's not that you don't, like, occasionally agree with, like, one thing he says. Yeah. But for the most part, you're like, dude, just stop. Dude, Morrissey. I mean, the set list is looking pretty buff overall. Feefy. But the problem is, exactly. But the problem is with any artist like that, it's like they're never going to do all the songs you want because there's too many. Yeah. Well, he also might end up, like, going on a... on a rant and missing the second half of the set, basically, or something. You never know. I like that. I'm historically a fan of musicians who have meltdowns. I've seen people have meltdowns on stage. I mean, look, if you've been following Ryan Adams and Cat Power the way I have, you've seen this happen for years. I definitely have not been following Ryan Adams at all. King of the Meltdown, but Cat Power did it better. You know what I mean? Like the walk-off. I like the Green Day ones. I don't know if I'm as familiar with you. It was like an iHeartRadio fest? Yeah, where somebody's basically like two minutes, and he's like, fuck that, we're going to play it. I love guys like that. I was listening to your album today with AirPods in the pool. Wow. So far, so good. Wow. It reminded me like it's so hard with my attention span to just sit and listen to an album, no skips, not while you're doing the dishes or something like that, just sitting there and fully recording it. Yeah, when you can actually reach your phone. Yeah, yeah. So I had to literally go out into the middle of a pool where I couldn't touch anything. I couldn't go underwater and just listen to the whole album. And it was a good way to listen to a record like this that has all those weird little... OPN sounds going on in the background. I actually think this... It created an underwater soundscape. I think that this record is actually great for someone with a short attention span. It's kind of like... It's like, oh, fast song. Now it's slow. Now it's really heavy. Now it's like...

poppy it does all the things in a very condensed and concise way yeah they're just it's just like next next next you know i felt that from the album as well there's no fluff there's no commercials in between any of the songs there's no ads i didn't put any ads in And you could have done that, and your restraint on that was breathtaking. There's no interludes. Yeah, yeah, no dumbass skits. There's no audio from my phone that I pulled off. Honestly, thank God for that. That's really popular right now. Everyone's looking through their voicemails and being like... I think that's probably because of TikTok, because there'll be a special sound clip that people can... do videos too, and they can mouth that shit. Yeah, then they can mouth it. Nothing I want to hear more than a voicemail from Jack Antonoff for 30 seconds before I have to listen to a fucking song. You know what I mean? I'm good. No, it's such a big thing. Do people be mouthing you on TikTok? Yeah, I don't know. It's really huge. I don't know. I'm not on TikTok. Occasionally, my friends will send me... My mom used to really like to send me videos she would find of... people like pole dancing to oh really yeah it's this one guy specifically there was a guy and he which was it all songs was there a certain song that really got him spinning uh i think there was a couple that's great soccer mommy's album has a stripper song it's like outcasts it was i mean it was amazing it was very that's very hard to do i could not Could not even kind of hold myself up. With, like, rap music, they always say, like, the strip club test, like, that's when you know you got a hit if you can play it in the strip club and pull people. Well, now I know your dog can be full dance, too. Are you a big, are you a big, I just watched, we talked about this in the last episode, I just watched the MGK documentary on Hulu, and, you know, him and your boy Travis Barker are big fans of the car test. You know what I mean? They got to get in the Bentley truck, drive 150. So do you get in the Tacoma and kind of... Oh, I feel that way. Yeah, first of all, what kind of truck do you got? Oh, I have a Ranger. Okay, keeping it American, by the way. An O2. So I definitely think, just in general, I think that you could not just be listening to songs on nice speakers. You need to check them out on the wired headphones.

Yes. I need to check them out in your crappy car speakers. The practical application. That's how you know. That's how you know if the mix is okay, is if it sounds good in every sense. If it sounds good at Walmart, it's going to sound good. Exactly. I don't want to hear it on the radio in my Subaru later, and suddenly I realize the bass is really low. That'd be tragic. Got to pass the Subaru test. That'd be tragic. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I just don't. Yeah, I guess because I lived in New York for so long, I didn't think about cars. But now in California, I really do be listening to a lot of music in the whip. And I would say sometimes the new car speakers are too nice. Like you're saying, you need an early 2000s to kind of hear the... tinny highs. You know what I mean? Like how a new TV is to HD. It wasn't made for aux cords and stuff. It was made for CDs. It was made for hauling lumber is what it was made for. That's exactly it. It was made for me making a pool in the back. Have you done that? I have. What? Soccer mommy digging a pool? Yeah, it's awesome. So hold on, hold on. So you hit the local Home Depot in Murfreesboro, and you just kind of got some duct tape, and, like, what did we do here? Duct tape in Murfreesboro? No, here's what you do. Here's what you do. Here's what you do. So I have an actual pool now, so I don't do it anymore. Oh, okay, big dog. Okay, big dog. What you do is you get a tarp. Okay. And you put the tarp in the bed. Okay. And you'd throw a hose in and you'd fill it up with water. So this is a hillbilly dip? And then you put a speaker on the head of the cab. Yeah, no, sure, sure. And that's where you put your drinks as well. So you put the Beats pill on the cab. Yep, exactly. And then you've got a couple of Coors lights up there. And do you cruise or is this driveway only? No, no, this is driveway. Okay. And then when you're done with it, you just drop the... the tailgate and all the water rushes out honestly honestly i didn't think i thought there was a lot more to this then no it's very easy it's extremely easy i mean it's it's dummy proof for sure i have some concerns about the suspension the wear and tear it's putting it on there with all that extra weight but we'll talk about that offline with with me and all my friends yeah how many people are you fitting in the back of a ranger with water

Comfortably three. Did a bar mitzvah last summer. But I've had like six people, and they're like sitting on the edges, you know. Feed in. Like feed in only. Okay. Yeah. And are you drinking kind of an American beer, or is it a hard seltzer activation? IPA, sweet tea, truly. It's usually a hard seltzer. What's your go-to hard seltzer? I think that the Topos are the best. If you can afford them. Interesting. Those are the best ones. Yeah, they're the best. And then White Claw. Damn. Because that has the best flavors. I think that Bud Light Seltzer is actually better than White Claw, but they don't have enough flavor options. But we're not ready for that conversation yet. I just don't know. I don't know why all these seltzer companies are so obsessed with raspberry and lime. What flavors are you looking for? I want the mangoes. Okay, Rihanna. Guava. Okay. So you want to take it to the island. I want the pineapple. You want the tropical flavors, of course. No one wants, like, lemon. Nobody wants lemon, but people want raspberry, strawberry. Those are pretty standard American flavors. The strawberries can be okay, but... Not everyone is an island gal like you. Nobody wants raspberry. Take it from me. If you bring a white claw pack somewhere, those... Those in the lime are the last to go. I've been saying this. You're doing kind of on-the-ground research. You're saying, I showed up with a 24-pack, there's four left, and it's all lime and raspberry. Yeah. Me and the girls at my house. When you and the girlies get after it. That's your last resort. It's the lemon. The lime. Everybody says, hand me a pineapple, hand me a blackberry, hand me a cherry. It's like when you have a pizza party and they're like, does anyone want a slice of this impossible ball pizza? And you're like, no, I'm good. Exactly. Like, you know what everybody, everybody's going to go in there and grab the good ones first. And then at the end you're going to have, you know, I want pineapple. I want pepperoni pizza. I'm a goddamn American. You're going to have the watermelon.

Fake flavoring at the end or something that nobody likes. So how often are you hosting? Now that you have a pool, congratulations. Thank you. What kind of parties are you hosting? Are you cleaning the pool yourself? Are there a lot of chairs, a few chairs, cushions? Does your kitchen have an island? Kitchen has no island. Do you have a pizza oven? I don't have a pizza oven. We're going to want to work on that if the backyard is kind of... Do you have management? I do clean the pool myself. I'm the pool girl. I'm out there with the brush. scraping it. I've got the RoboVac. Wally, it's his name. You throw him in and you hit go and he just goes around the bottom of the pool sucking shit up. Wally gets in there. I think in Nashville, those summers are something else. It's too hot, too humid. You've got to take a dip sometimes. Is there a hot tub attachment or is it strictly pool? It's just a pool. I'm not a hot tub person really that hard. It's like you're just sitting there and it's hot. I only want to do it for my muscle recovery. Right, yeah. But I understand. I don't want to. Yeah, I just don't want to, like, boil. You don't want to sit in you soup. Yeah. Exactly. Soup meat out of you. Now, when you have a pool party, what are the – obviously, you're offering seltzers, but are you doing a guacamole? Are you ordering pizza? Are you expecting the guests to kind of – When I have a pool party, it's usually about four people, and the girls come over. You get some White Claws. You get some – Papa John's? Tequila. I don't know. It depends what you have. Okay, so you're – You make a couple drinks. you maybe get a pizza, but usually I'm kind of putting out some... I'm a big cheese person. Like some cheese and crackers. This is starting to sound like my bachelorette party stuff, I gotta say. You know, like get the cheese board out. Okay, are we tablescaping the cheese board, though? I'm talking manchego, you know. I'm not talking cheddar. So big ticket cheeses are going down. It's a nice thing, you know. They have that at Kroger? Some grapes, some fruit. Absolutely. So you go into Kroger, you start swinging that dick around in the cheese aisle. I can tell somebody does not.

get very invested in in the cheese world chris chris is not a big fan genre i'm not i'm not a big i love it i'm not a big dairy guy that's fair but a cheese board in a hundred degree 100 humidity nashville summer nobody's not nobody's putting the board outside come on chris no no i understand that guys i know I know how cheese works. We're not just like letting it sweat. I know how cheese works. I'm just saying I think a lighter, fairer, you know what I mean? Some fresh fruit, you know what I mean? Oh, fruits. It's involved. Okay. Some vegetables. I'd love a Persian cucumber to be in play if you don't mind. Get a little watermelon, perhaps. Now, watermelon. That's some nice stuff. Nothing brings me back to my childhood more in the South than having a nice big slice of watermelon by a pool with feet in the grass. You know what I mean? That's what life's all about. I don't like wet feet in the grass. That's terrible. Sophie, I feel like you might have a little collection of these fun little pet peas. I kind of would like to hear more of them. I mean, I'm not going to know until you bring them up. Oh, okay, okay. You know, like I'm not going to be able to just list them off like that. That doesn't sound great. Wet feet in the hot grass. So you're not into earth? Are you not an earther then? You don't like to connect with planet earth? No, I do. I just don't want to like put, I just don't want to specifically get my feet wet and then get them in the grass. I'd rather just go in the grass or. Go in the water. One or the other. What kind of mushrooms are we taking at these parties? I've never taken mushrooms, and I don't plan to. What? Yeah, I don't really like the idea of being trapped in a scenario for a really long time that might get weird. Something about that is very unappeal. People are like, it could be really fun. I'm like, I just... if it isn't fun, I'm like in it for like eight hours. So no, that is true. But I understand your logic, but sometimes good can come from that. Like, you know, I was, I was trapped in a scenario listening to your album in the pool and what a great experience it ended up being, you know, that's true. Yeah. You suggest it, you suggest it for fans, not for yourself. I like that. So you like to be in control then? Yeah, probably. I like to be able to exit if I want to. I like to be able, I like to be able to like,

Just drive home. Oh. If I would enjoy. You know, I like to be able to just. end the evening if I'm not enjoying what's going on. Are you a ghoster? If this party ain't going right, you just head to the ranger? Oh, no, no, no. I'll say goodbye. You ain't a monster. But also anyone who is riding with me, because I'll be a sober driver a lot of the time because I don't drink very much. Welcome to my life, sis. Anyone who is riding with me, it's like... Okay, we're leaving. And it's like, okay, I'm going. So anyone who would like to come, come. That is your option. We went on tour together. So you really are a literal soccer mommy and driving these damn kids around in the van. The train's leaving now. You can come with me if you want. In the Subaru. I like, by the way, when I sent the invite for this podcast because it said how long gone with soccer mommy, Google kind of added this soccer graphic to the calendar invite. Automatically. Oh, really? That's cool. Yeah, I like that a lot. It's never happened before on my Google Calendar. I'm just special. You are special. We all know that. I've actually set it up so whenever anyone mentions me. That's what happens. You had a meeting with Google and took care of that. Yeah. You talked to those guys. You talked to those guys over at Google. Yeah. Speaking of Google, Chris and I were talking before this show about emojis. The salute emoji has really started to take off as a trending emoji. What is that? You haven't seen that? It's a half face with it. Salute? What are you guys talking about? Do you have an Apple iPhone or a Samsung? I just got a new phone because I left it at the airport, so it's definitely going to be on here. Definitely going to be on here. So it's like a half of an emoji, and he's kind of doing like a military salute. Oh, hey, I see him. Why is it only half of him? Well, you see them, actually, Sophie. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well, that's fair. Why is it half a face, Jason? Why is it half a face? I don't, maybe they, just from a design standpoint, they couldn't fit the whole thing in there and really have it look the right way. Yeah, that makes sense. But I was saying it kind of creates a little bit of a dom and sub dynamic in your DMs where some of your, like, do the soccer mommy fans have a name, like the Beehive or anything? I don't, I don't know. I mean, to be honest.

That's really up to them. I'm not going to name them. No, no, no. But I'm saying have they already bestowed a name on you? There's quite a few new ones. I'm looking at someone like melting. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at someone melting. I'm the type of person. I'm the type of person. I don't like update my phone. I don't like download any updates. Like when I lost my phone at the airport, it was a very difficult. situation because you're not in the cloud I discovered I like wasn't like find my iPhone not on I'm not in the cloud like I'm probably not even logged into my Apple ID Unabomber it's actually it's actually laziness entirely it's it's like whenever I set up a new phone I'm like quick setup and then I don't turn on any of that stuff and I forget forever you're not messing around in the settings all day then I'm like at the Apple store complaining because none of it's easy to switch over and that's on me i i am always if i forget my phone at home and i go out somewhere i'm like okay ever since i got off like not using social media and stuff it's it's very like what am i going to be doing anyway unless someone's I'm out with the people that would be trying to, I have like five friends. Did you kind of, did you come to that conclusion yourself or did your parents kind of bestow some of those Luddite tendencies in you? No, no, no. I definitely, I used to be more like if I left my phone somewhere, it was kind of like, I'm so bored. I'm so bored, y'all. I lose my phone a lot. So I like, I leave it at Home Depot, Walgreens, CVS. We've got to get one of those things where it straps around your neck or something like that. Yeah, I don't want to look like that. I've been listening to some country music on the radio out here in Palm Springs the last couple days. And it's kind of starting to sound nice in a weird way. Oh, it's great. But some of it has some weird undertone, some Fox News type shit going on. I hear less and less of that because I listen to country radio a lot. I hear less.

Less and less of any kind of political stuff and more just kind of like, saw her at the bar again. I miss her. The only radio station that was coming in out here in Palm Springs was the Christian country station. So they have a more clear vision. It's very war hero. But it's encouraging buying land and starting families and stuff. Oh, you're talking about buy dirt? Yes. I know that song. Yes. It's called Buy Dirt. It's Luke Bryan and someone. Who else? Do you remember who else it is? It's two people, but basically the point is you can't buy happiness and all this stuff, but you can buy dirt. And you can build a house on it. But it just feels like propaganda for real estate development. Yeah, it's very like... You know, put the investment in early. Yes. Buy some dirt. Buy some dirt. Put a house on it. Just build a life there. Yeah, in a place that you can afford. Don't go to one of those big city slicker towns like New York. Yeah, just build a happy life on your dirt. And start having kids who can buy more stuff. Pop them out. It's simple, guys. It's simple down there. I miss it. I've got to be honest with you. My life is busy now. I'm dealing with traffic and work and all this stuff. I'd love to be in your position, just out by the pool. Well, Chris, you managed to buy some dirt in your home, West Hollywood. That's true, but I'd like some southern dirt as well, because I think that my country... Some literal dirt, yeah. I think my country phase could be incoming. Do you have any country stuff in kicking down the can? Any demos? No. No? You're never going to cross that line? I think if I ever decide to retire... I would love to just have a career of like shitting out some country songs and trying to get hits because it seems like it'd be fun. To sell to people or to perform? Oh yeah, to sell. No, to sell. Like just from a songwriting standpoint, to sell. But no, I think the closest is my truck song on the record. That might be the closest I'll ever get to being country. Because lyrically it's touching on some of those themes. Yeah.

Is the song about your truck or to your truck? It's about my truck and also aging and getting closer to death. Just like that old 2002 out there on the porch. So the 2002 Ranger is a metaphor for the beauty of life. I just hope the good Lord takes me before it takes me. I don't know if metaphor is right. It's more like looking at this truck and being like... I long for that mechanical just like go until you drop and like when something breaks, you just fix it. I got 300,000 miles and I'm still... Instead I'm like 22 and I'm like have back problems. And you can't fix them just like these damn new Toyota trucks. I tried once to fix... I've always had some neck issues. In high school, I went to physical therapy for moshing too much. I've got to say, you're really making me yearn for some country living. I know. I'm telling you. It's great. I can just go out to the steeplechases when the horses aren't there and watch the stars. I actually do that. That wasn't a joke. All that stuff is good, but what's the bad stuff about it? I want you to do some country venting. stuff about and don't say mosquitoes it's the well those are bad but um like spiders and stuff um out in the woods and also i mean obviously the politics are not great it's it's kind of weird because nashville is like a blue it's like a blue city in a red state so it's uh It's a little better in Nashville. It's still not as great as it could be, obviously. That's a dang old purple state. You'll catch a Trump sticker down at the turnip truck. Yeah, you will definitely catch them everywhere. I don't want to just flee and go to somewhere where everything's perfect and leave these giant spots in America where everything is bad, kind of, and there's no one.

doing otherwise. I know what you mean. That's why I'm thinking about moving to Florida, so I understand exactly what you mean. Speaking of sandwiches, death row, last meal, it's got to be a sandwich. What are we going to get? Chopped cheese. Whoa, big dog. All right, relax. That's stolen valor. It's so good. Is that real? There's a place in Nashville now that has chopped cheese. I ain't buying. I ain't eating a chopped cheese in Nashville. That is stolen. No, it's good. No, it's so good. What's it called? It's called 615 Deli. Okay. It's everything. Honestly, I love this place. Everything there is good. What are you washing that down? Coca-Cola? No, I'm like a LaCroix or something. I don't drink a lot of soda. Maybe a yerb. Perhaps. Get a little enlightenment. Okay. A little inspiration for the studio today. You got me fucked up. I'll tell you what. I feel like you're kind of like a funny... You're like someone I would have known in high school, kind of, because of the Southern connection. But then there's a lot of modern twists. You know what I mean? You're like the cool chick in high school who ends up being a famous musician. I don't think I was cool in high school. But that's what makes you cooler. It's almost like... It's almost like I went to your high school 10 years later or something. That's the vibe I'm getting from you. I don't know. You didn't stuff anybody in a locker, but you were kind of on time. Were you president of the Magic the Gathering Club at your high school? No. Actually, I was a bit of a nerd. I was a valedictorian. Really? You were a valedictorian? Yeah. I was academic. A little bit dorky. I was in the swing band. What? Not the swing band. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Jump, jive, and then you wail? Playing some real book tunes, you know? So did you guys have like a punny ska name for the band? No, no, no. This wasn't like, it was like, it was more like. It was like proper swing. It was like, it was like Sinatra and like stuff, like doing like standards.

And you're playing guitar? I was playing guitar and singing, yes. So you were on your Miss Maisel shit. I don't know what that is. So you're a fucking nerd. That's cool. Yeah, I was a little... Okay, and then when you went to NYU as a valedictorian coming from Nashville, what were you studying? I started in... arts and sciences I was undecided and then I went to a music business when I gave up so you're like an athlete that's like I'm gonna do like body science because I'm putting all my chips into the NFL that was kind of the like I wasn't planning on pursuing music as a career because I thought it I was like being logical sure And so I was like, we're just going to do comparative lit or something. If I'm not front of house, I can at least be back of house and work in the biz somehow. Exactly. That was the plan when I moved to music business. Best case scenario, you're doing your own contracts when you hit it big. Yeah. So that's really smart. But you do have a manager and agent now, obviously. Yeah. But they must get a kick out of you because you know all the stuff that they know as well. No, because I took one year. Okay. I took a freshman year. I learned how to book a show. No, but I already knew how to do that. Yeah, I just did the beginning, so it was more that I just took all of my gen eds. Okay, so it costs $75,000 for one year for you to learn how to book a show. I think we're recouping now. Yeah, this is recoupment. I was living on the... scholarship train. That's what a valedictorian deserves. That's what you get when you are not rich. They're interested in having you at the school. You're not rich, but you're a natural born hustler. You're a natural born hustler. You're shitting on them now. You've got a pool. Sophie, thank you for joining us on How Long Gone. It was a true pleasure. We've been fans of the music for a long time. It was nice to talk to you. The new record is great.

That was so polite. That felt like a lie, Sophie. Sophie, I don't want you to name, like, your favorite episode of this podcast out of all the 365. I think my favorite was the one that was, like, probably the last couple. Yeah, the last couple. We've been kind of... We caught our stride. Yeah, those are... And the first. And the first is good, too. Yeah, we kind of got in our bag, and then we figured it out. Yeah, they were all... Dude, I appreciate the honesty. You guys have hit a stride. It was COVID. You know how it is. Yeah, you've hit a stride now. You feel it, right? Thank you for that. I love that feedback. I feel it. All right, Sophie, thank you. The Soccer Mommy, the new album, Sometimes Forever, is in stores now. Is it available on CD, though? Absolutely. Thank God. Thank God. All right, buy it on CD. Cassette? You can even get it on cassette. It's probably a fun color, right? I won't make a dollar. Probably because they're too expensive to make. Yeah, it'll be purple. Oh, it'll be purple. Color royalty. Thank you, Sophie. Yeah, thanks.