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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? We're coming to you live from Glendale, uncut, unedited. Sunday morning, I just made some coffee. Chris is wearing his Wales Bonner Adidas yet again. He's still confused about where to stripe and where to check. I guess I haven't talked about this publicly, Jason, but I guess this is it. We're just going to break the news now. I mean, no, but you haven't posted feet on Instagram? Well, it's a different account. They kind of come there just for the feet. More on that later. For all of our devoted listeners, I've been having an identity crisis for the last couple of months because I blacked out and bought four pairs of Wales Bonner Adidas. Four? You got all the flavors? On StockX. Chocolate, vanilla, mint chip, and strawberry? In one day because it's the best collaborative shoe. in years you didn't get the harry's berries gucci ones though but i would shout out to melanie from guia she had those i'm absolutely fucking pilled and i don't know what happened but it's just like it's it's they're too good walk me through the arch support of the adidas better worse or same as nike well here's the problem jason nike had given us no heat there's no heat i don't know what to do like it's not about arch support it's about like where's the flames and there's zero they're putting out fucking jacquemus looking like damn cat

like hiking shoes like they're they're not giving so they're in they're in drake mode right now where they thought they were really cooking but they were they were not they're not they got nothing i need them to come correct but the whales bonner stuff is the best collaboration years i couldn't resist and my wallet paid for it how much do those cost per shoe oh not i mean not prepare not per shoe They're like $175 or something. Not bad. That's light work, bro. That's light work for me. Bro, my Kyrie Irvings cost that same amount. It ain't nothing. I keep them in the car. So I had to get the red. I had to get the blue. I had to get the black. I had to get the cream. I mean, I just had to get it. No, I mean, like, Carolyn yesterday was wearing a beautiful black flowy dress paired with the Wales Bonner. I don't know. Maybe the green ones, I think. Yeah. And it just. I mean, that classic Adidas gazelle, samba silhouette is timeless. Wales is going to fuck it out a little bit. I say we got two more weeks. For people on the cusp of fashion trends, I'd like to think that you're pretty, or at least I thought you were there. I don't know. I disagree because I think it's not loud or freaky enough. to be like that's what i like about it it just looks like a normal shoe it looks like a normal shoe but for those who know pay attention to that yeah contrast stitching and you know it's actually the the like the scalloped tongue the doily style laces but i think that oh i didn't notice the doily laces damn you're on your little gohar shit it ain't nothing for me to put out some potatoes on the table but Yeah, I've been going through this whole thing, but I think that this is just where I'm at. I think it's a great product, and I had to give in, and I know that I've been saying checks over stripes for years. So now you've got Marcel the Shell ass shoes on, and you're shouting it from the rooftops. I just have to be honest about it, and don't get me wrong. When I'm in the lab, which by the lab I don't mean the podcast studio, I mean the gym, it's still head-to-toe checks only. I mean, you can't.

You still got your Metcon 4s on. Yeah, you can't wear. Adidas performance is like, that's bad. That's rough. When are you going to become zero shoe guy? You mean zero drop? Zero drop. It's like my ass. Until once the hips are connected. That's some Hunter shit, actually. Hunter loves all that stuff. I mean, every trainer at my gym wears the zero ones. For our listeners at home, those are the ones where it's just flat. There's no arch. I wanted to talk about something gym related. on this podcast today that i found this morning that i did tweet about so i'm sorry if you already read the tweet oh i know what you're talking about and we're gonna get to that later it's on my agenda chris okay great i'm sorry why jason let's let's get off of my feet uh because i see you're getting hard and let's move on to no no no because i i knew where your thread was going and i was like i'd like to I don't want to have that as the amuse-bouche. I'd like to have that maybe on the secondi. Okay. Before the porterhouse. Yeah, great. Here's my credit card. And after the English piece. Another bottle of wine? No, yeah. We got Comic-Con going on right now. Yeah. How Long Gone Comic Con Edition. Our invite was lost in the mail yet again. All of our podcast peers seem to be in Austin, Texas taking random selfies with Alex Jones. Is there a white nationalist convention going on in Austin? I think every weekend in Austin is a white nationalist convention, but they call it a bachelorette party. It's called the New Momentum Front bachelor party. They just add a bunch of words together and they're like... yeah i think if you get it you get it if you know you know you're like i don't what is this the bumper sticker on your on your f-350 says keep austin irish is that this episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian stateside with kai and carter this is covering a lot of our bases jason it's a it's trying to slow down

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Yeah, so you were talking about, I think what you were talking about was related to Gymshark. That's right, yeah. Which I see a lot of Gymshark clothing in the gym. A lot of Noble, a lot of Gymshark. Noble. I feel like we should just start a company, like a gym clothing company. It seems easy to do. Well, there's a new one I also have been seeing, ASRV. which is a $100 pair of shorts. And the thing that these, they're like the long tights where the shorts are a little shorter. You know, like the tights are hitting knee, but the shorts are hitting five inch. And I just don't, that's like a very weird common combo. But this company has capitalized on that and they've added the fear of God long strings. It's called ASRV? ASERV? I'm not sure what it means, but it feels military inspired. Okay, because it was sounding a little third-wave church, kind of. Like, I serve the big bro upstairs. Luckily, third-wave church and military are the same. I serve the number one goddess goaded as fuck. I serve his ass. God is a goat. I mean, unfortunately, making technical clothing is quite hard, but people have figured it out. I mean, the technology is there. Like, I don't know if no bull... has a team of scientists and biological research labs to create a perfect shoe. Honestly, dude, I agree with you, but they might. I could be wrong. They might. It seems crazy because it seems like two guys from Tampa, they used to be cops, started a shoe company with what they tell each other when they're drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it could be that mixed with... Real technology. Some true innovation. Especially if they get money. You know what I mean? If you get money, you raise money. Yeah, you have to have some proof of concept. Gymshark is a multi-million dollar British operation. Oh, it's British? That's right. Babes. Babes, put on your Gymshark. Looks quite good on your bum. So there probably is a Gymshark for Top Shop collab. I mean, didn't Beyonce do a with her?

Ivy Park Top Shop. Ivy Park Top Shop. We all remember that collection. Gymshark is one of those things where you'll see a story about it, like a piece of press, and it's kind of like, it's always framed as this under the radar. I'm like, this shit ain't under the radar in LA. This is the uniform for going to Runyon when you drive a fucking 3 Series with a dent in it. Okay, so you posted a thing where they're having, it appears to be like a branding and marketing, brick and mortar activation where jim shark a company that makes sports bra is like let's open a barber shop where not only are the haircuts free that's right but the barbers will offer therapeutic services and advice and not a nice neck massage okay i mean therapeutic advice for what really ails you for for For what I would use BetterHelp for. Exactly. So the idea is that this pop-up barbershop. Love those guys. It's available for a week or two. Has found barbers. Who are also licensed therapists? That's the thing. I don't know what's more important in this situation. Are you a better barber or are you a better therapist? Because if I go in there to get my fade and you fuck up my fade, I don't want to hear what you have to say about my emotional trauma. Yeah, you got to pick one. You got to pick one. So in all, I mean, just the casting call alone is like, hey, everybody who has their barber and cosmetological, all their certifications and dues are paid in working in standing order. You also have gone to school for five to six years to become a licensed therapist. I think there must be some loopholes maybe in the UK for this kind of thing. Right, right, right. I'm actually just a counselor. You know what I mean? I'm not like a therapist. His TikTok is like, I'm like a shrink with some clippers. But also, every barbershop has been a therapist forever. But that's what they're playing into. But instead of it being cool where your barber makes fun of you and says things we can't say on this podcast, it's now like, my mom kind of wasn't there for me, bro.

So this is a bad idea on so many levels because, like we were saying before, not only do you have to find people who are good at cutting hair and giving therapy, but also you have to find people in the world who are like, I need a free haircut so badly that I'm willing to risk getting a bad haircut being given to me by a person who is a therapist. That's being paid for by a company that makes sports bras. It's, it's very, so there's three people in Europe that can do this on both sides of the spectrum. Incredibly twisted. And it costs $4.9 million. Somebody on Twitter said re-stigmatize mental health. And I say that is exactly what it is. Like the, the, we've talked about this a million times, but stuff like this is like absolutely bottom feeder bullshit behavior that makes like actual therapy seem. Like, I don't understand who this is for, and there's no way this can work. Okay, also, when you go to the barbershop once or twice a week, or once every week or two... I go once every week to the barbershop. Unfortunately, they do not speak English there, so the only therapy I'm getting is from... So you have to look inward. I look at the Romeo Santos video they're playing on the flat screen, but that's sort of inward. Vamos chicharito. When you're in that chair at the barbershop, a.k.a. the therapist's office, if we're being all the way a buck with it, how long does it take to cut your hair? I would say with the beard. For listeners at home, you don't have Jonathan from Queer Eye Hair. No, I don't. It's a short haircut. It's a short haircut. It's a skin fade to a half on top and then a beard trim. I would say 30 minutes. Okay, so 30 minutes. Which is, you know. I will say – I'm saying that's not enough time to figure out what's going on with your child molestation situation. No, Luann also – Luann's charging, I don't know, $250 an hour. You know what I'm saying? Luann's your therapist? Yeah, Luann's charging $250. I ain't paying – That's why I signed up for BetterHelp. I can't afford that. I'm paying $30 for the buzz. How much can you give me for $30? And also when – of all – I mean I haven't done much creative work, but I like to –

I think that I sort of specialized in IRL experiences. That's right. Non-digital events that you can touch and smell. And so many ideas that I had that I thought were pretty good, just shut down. Shut down, eh? And then something like this, they're like, fuck yeah, here's the budget. The reason they did this is because of the Adweek story where I found it. You know what I mean? I don't think they think they're actually going to help people, but I think that they're like, we can spend X for a week and get some press that says Gymshark mental health, and that's it. We won. It's like when M&Ms is like, we have a non-binary M&M now. It's not going to sell more M&Ms, but it will get some ad week press. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's just not. That's what actually. Non-binary M&M do be tasting good, though. I know. I know that sounds. We're a little bit black-pilled, but I can't. What other answer is there? There's just no way to be earnest about this. Marketing budgets, bro. I'm never going to understand them. I'm also never going to get them. That's the problem. We don't have good ideas like this. Our ideas are too good. I understand. It's a problem I've had my whole life. Speaking of backlash, I'm seeing some backlash from FX is the bear. We've talked about it too much to the point where everyone is asking us to have every chef on to come talk about it. Every member of the staff except the star to come on the podcast. Yeah, for our listeners at home who are trying to get us to interview people from FX is the Bear, we're not trying to get a script consultant or a second AD or the guy who drove the Sprinter back and forth from John and Vinny's. We're trying to get the star. Yeah, we want to talk to Jeremy. Or the guy who created it. We want to talk to Jeremy Allen White about everything but Queens. You know what I mean? I want to talk to Ayo. Yeah, I want to talk to Ayo. Yeah, I don't want to talk to the...

To the guy who built the set. I'm good on that, but thank you. Yeah, I mean, we already had Maddie Matheson on the show, the most famous person on that program, arguably. More famous than the star. Maybe. For sure. Yeah. I mean, if we're doing... I think we should do a thing. Dan Frommer, run the numbers. Who's got more money? Oh, Maddie Matheson has so much more money. I don't know, 10 years on Shameless? 10 years on Shameless. And it's probably in syndication. But he lives in New York. I bet you he's got three milli and Matty got 18. Matty ain't got 18. He's going to text us and let us know his net worth, no question. Matty Matheson, text me how much money you have in wellsfargo.ca. Yeah, and I'm not talking. The TD Bank is banging, but I don't. This isn't. You have to keep the Harley money out of it. The Ottawa Teachers Credit Union has a max on the weekend withdrawals, but I need to know the total amount that you have. I can't remember the town he lives in, the credit union where the Blue Goose Farm is. The Blue Goose Credit Union. I thought about all the jobs Matty Matheson has, all the revenue streams. He has over a dozen revenue streams that are like, One of them is a good job for someone. And he has 14 of them. I mean, he's got three mouths to feed and plus his three or four on his person. So that's a lot. I mean, that's a lot. That costs money. And he gets free. All of his food is free. That's his biggest expense, and it's all for free. That's fucked up. Well, I mean, yeah, you can write off all that high-end seafood for your new restaurant. I'm sure his little kids are running around like, I don't want to eat any more of these blue goose green beans. Not tonight, daddy. I want BurgerKing.ca, motherfucker. I want my maple tots now. If I don't get some Swiss Chalet delivered right now, dad, we're going to have a fucking problem.

Sorry. Yeah, so I've been seeing a little bit of backlash because everyone was so bear-pilled. What's the backlash now? The backlash is anyone who's ever worked in a restaurant being like, oh, he's not holding his deli cup the right way when he's drinking it in the gutter. If I hear one more thing about these fucking deli cups, it's also like, guys, it's TV. It's supposed to be realistic to a point. That's the thing, and it reminds me of when people are like... Complaining about anything that's on national television where people who are in their 50s who live in Studio City and drive seven series cars, those are the people who are deciding what is going to be made on this television show on one sole reason, money. It's not like, are we going to get this thing right about this video game show or something? We're going to try our best to get this right. And if we miss a few times, but we got a hit. Yeah. I mean, you could make the most. perfectly accurate, down to every detail thing, and have a fun time making that on your TikTok and have a great time with it. But if it's going to be on television... You see how the pink sauce thing went? Not well. And it's the same thing for your boy Nathan Fielder where they're like, they'll have all these shows like, this is the most cringe TV show ever. I was watching it and I was so cringe. And other people are like, that's not even close to being cringe, bro. This is real cringe. That's not on TV. Yeah, cringe is a scale. Cringe is a scale. The most cringeworthy stuff is unable to be viewed on national television for laws and things like that. But this is as good as you're going to get for TV with the bear. It's crazy that people just can't be like, it's good. Well, I think it's like people feel maybe it's like a jealousy or something like that. in the back of this pizza shop in Brooklyn for three years. So I know when the guy says behind or corner or whatever, they said it differently. And my towel was wrapped around my neck this way. Isn't it amazing that we've glorified these absolutely shit jobs to the point where people are arguing about the authenticity of it on a television show?

Well, I think nowadays, because people are like, everyone has a fake internet job where they go to their pod at the high mat. Shout out to the high mat. I still haven't been. But everyone's doing their little fake email slack jobs, and you have your seven discords, and it's all going. I'll be in the quiet phone booth taking my Zoom if you need me. And people are yearning for maybe a little blue-collar service work or romanticizing that because back in my day, I'm like a 27-year-old line cook. Back in my day, this shit was real, and we had to, like, work with our hands. And, like, yeah, I would get burns. Yeah, I would get cuts. Yeah, I'd go home with my feet sore. So it's a little bit of that of, like, I want my – no one ever made a show about me. Sure. And I was the realist of the real, and I didn't make any money. And you guys are, like, making money off of my life. And it also has the energy of, like, anyone can do this. But it's also like, so why didn't you? If it's so easy, if anyone could do this, anyone could do this, but you didn't. I thought you meant cleaning up my station. And that's something that I take very seriously, as you know. Sure. I kind of keep that thing clean all night, but then I give it a really serious wipe down before we go home. Yeah. When we had Mama on, they're like, oh, it's so wrong. And people are tweeting about it. That's not the way kitchens are. And it's like, that's how this kitchen was. Yeah. I'm sure the CPK ASAP that you worked at was a little bit different. Go write a TV show about it. Get funding. The Shake Shack and LaGuardia, it is different. They just do things differently there, and I don't know why it's so good. The Breakfast Sando's there? Not the Sando. We're going to go to Shake Shack for Sando's. It's in Terminal 1. I have to leave and go through security again, but the Sando is worth it. It's worth it, yeah. Well, the one on my terminal, it's not open yet. I like to get to the airport early. I know it's random, but I get to the airport early. To be fair, the airport is open at 4.30, but the restaurant's not open until 6.30, so there's a little time to kill. How many times have I been at that Shake Shack with the metal gate closed like a Spencer Gifts, and I'm shaking that thing. Jason is in a holding cell. I need a sausage sandwich.

I think we were talking about that, like the sweet spot or some type of way to enjoy a layover. It's like a weird freedom of having a three-hour layover in Minnesota. I'm a very efficient traveler, but I... I don't want a surprise layover. Like what Delta was trying to do to me last week when my flight was delayed seven hours. Like, oh, you could just. What Delta was trying to do to me. You could just take a five-hour layover in Detroit. There's no Delta 1, but we'll take, you know, call us and we'll figure it out after you land. And I was like, no, I'm not agreeing to that. But I think when it's like, yeah, when it's like I was on a seven-hour flight and there was no direct option, so I got five hours to kill in Zurich. Like, yeah, you kind of. It's nice to have the break, and it does feel like you're kind of floating between time, which is nice. Which is how you feel when you're on an airplane, sort of, or at least how I feel in terms of things that go inside of my mouth during the time that we're on, 30,000 feet. I'm not talking about the Mile Hot Club. I'm talking about we're going to need another bag of those pop chips. Leave the bottle. I actually still fly JetBlue because the Terra chips are just too good. Oh, my God. Blue. Sweet potato chippies. The greatest plant snack of all time, and obviously I am working with a Delta Bias, is the Biscoff. Yeah, it is good. And it's just a cinnamon cookie. It is a cinnamon cookie. There's a problem, though, because they're a crumbly motherfucker. People talk about oats and honey bars being the true crumbler. They're not as crumbly as oat and honey. Don't do that. I think that they're more crumbly than oats and honey, but hear me out. The oats and honey crumbles and crumbs, they're visible with the naked eye. Whereas the Biscoff crumbs, it's a fine particulate. It's like a fine fentanyl powder. You have to pull out your jeweler's loop in order to get in the creaks and crevices of your Delta One seat. And that blanket, if you have the Delta Blue blanket on, and you're slowly, you're trying to stretch that Biscoff out over about 45 minutes. Well, luckily, Jason, when the flight's $3,000, you can get as many Biscoffs as you want.

And that's kind of one of the many benefits. Well, even in coach, you can ask for more Biscoffs and they're not going to shut you down. But they don't like to give them to you? They'll begrudgingly hand you an extra one. They'll happily say, Mr. Black, how many do you want? I'm like, I'm trying to watch the waistline. Just one. Well, I'm saying that's the problem. I see. Yeah, many times I've gone to take the Biscoff sitting in coach, and they kind of put a little fight. There's a little bit of struggle, like the two dogs fighting over the same spaghetti noodle. Sir, in 17F, we've already given you almonds. I think you need to relax. You've been over-served, big fella. Do you dip? Do I dip the Biscoff? I've seen people dip. No, I hit raw. The dip is crazy to me. No, it's supposed to be dipped in your night. But I don't want to – You don't want to dip in the Starbucks Reserve? Airplane tea, airplane coffee, unless it's an emergency, I'm never going to drink. I don't want to be responsible for a hot beverage. Kanye had the tweet about, like, I fell asleep on a plane and they handed me a water. I don't want to be responsible for this water now. But it's a closed bottle of Crystal Geyser. The responsibility level is pretty low. But a hot cup of liquid with no cap on top? All it takes is one bump over the Rockies. Oh, no. When WestJet offered you the Timmy Hoes, you had to say no. I could see in your eyes that you wanted it, but you had to kind of. So the Biscoff, it is a delicious treat, sure. It's not too sweet. Not too sweet. But I don't like the crumbs and the powders. It's all everywhere. So there's only one solution. I treat it like my sushi. Single bite. One bite only. I like that. I like that. I glizzy that Biscoff. Smart. Because chicks love to nibble. I like to nibble, too. If I'm in the barber chair and I have the smock on and that'll catch the crumbs, sure, that's one thing. But on my own couch, I'll nibble on it. A Biscoff at home is insane. I've actually made that mistake before. There was a time in my life, many, many, many years ago, where I purchased a pack of Biscoff from a Publix. Oh, she down bad. And I took them home, and let me tell you something.

It didn't transport me to the AirTran flight. It transported me to a dark place where I had to flush another toilet and then get some regular Nutter Butters to kind of satisfy the craving. It'd be so cool if you're such a points guy that you kept Biscoff in the house because it reminds you of being a flyboy. There's definitely people that do that. There's definitely freaks that do that. There's people that put a Disney Season Pass sticker on their car. There's definitely people that buy Biscoff at home because they're Delta Diamond. Because I miss hashtag terminal life. It's the new salt life. Terminal life? And I'm not talking about cancer. Oddly enough, my terminal life is ending. It is sort of the antithesis of life, but I am about this terminal life. Unfortunately, I'm truly down bad. So, Gymshark, down bad. I eat Biscoff cookies all in one bite. Okay, now I'm going to talk. Yesterday we had a dinner party at the house. I know. Thank you so much for the invite. It was really some of your best work. It was a trip to Vietnam, wasn't it? Yeah, your nom punch. Through Italy. Your nom punch was really. Stop calling it nom punch. It was blowing things up, though. I made a lemongrass tea as a base. Unsweetened. It's a skinny girl lemongrass tea. Jason made a pine saw margarita with Cheetos, and people were getting twisted. You go to the store, get some stalks of lemongrass. Of course. They're very cheap. Are those available at regular stores or do I have to go to the Asian market? I get my shit at Ralph's. Okay. On baby. But depending on – I live in L.A. It's a melting pot, far from a food desert. So I have the access to worldly cuisine like this. Okay. You've got to smack it with something, hit it with the back of a heavy knife or a hammer. It's a very tight, fibrous thing, and you have to break it loose. Think of like a small baby bamboo or something like that. Boil it in a big old pot for like 20 minutes, strain it. It's so refreshing. Mix it with a little Tito's, a little splash of soda on top, maybe a little lo-fi aperitif splash. That's too crazy. I've heard people seem to really enjoy this, but the menu was,

honestly smacking it was good it was it felt like you guys worked all day on this which i don't understand like doing that but it seems like something you like or is it just required it was it's interesting because her and i are very similar and very different with like the way we do stuff like we're very methodical and we plan things out in a certain way But they're usually different ways. So I subconsciously know when I have to break away and do something. Like I did all the shopping for the most part. And I was like, all right, she's going to yoga. It's not something I even thought about. But I just got in the car and drove to like three different markets just solo. Because that way I knew that I would just get everything and be done with it. Versus like, do I need, should we get two cucumbers or one? You know, like you're going to get in a fight over parsley or something. So that part was good. But her plan was like, we're going to get all the shit. We're going to prep it all out, put it into little FX's, the bare containers. So then when our guests arrive, all we have to do is push it over the line, a la minute, as they say. So we're literally prepping out our station. So when it's like, all right, table three is ready to fire, and then you just go boom, boom, boom. So I don't want to be in the kitchen entertaining while I'm... Sure, of course not. It seemed to be a seamless situation. Seamless of the motherfucker. But all that is to say, I was so proud of my organization that I posted fridge on Main, and it was interesting. Because people saw that you had all three flavors of Ghia ready to go, or because there was more whole milk than anything else? Yeah, shout out to Justice for Lulz. Instagram was like, damn, is that some cream soda? Sounds like this is far from cream soda sweet. So what, what, what? But it has like, it had like a weird, like perverted, horny, forbidden fruit kind of energy when you post something so, I mean, you're really truly opening the door of you, of your psyche. It's like such a glimpse into someone's brain and life can say a lot about somebody by the way that their refrigerator is organized. If you have the privilege.

to own a refrigerator, as well as non-biodegradable plastic cups that you can just throw out the window of a moving car. That's right, yeah. And if you take it to a party and they're like, do you want to take these cups home? You're like, no. Absolutely not. Should we just recycle them? You're like, no, no, no. No, no, no. We throw them away. I want these in the black trash. Not the blue one. Definitely not the green one. I see you reaching for the blue one. Don't do that. I mean, you can put it in the green one. Fuck it. I don't care. It's all going to the same place. They don't ever pick that one up anyway, so it's all good. But I had a lot of people commenting just like, this is perverted. And I was like, is this like showing feet pics, like showing fridge? I thought this is something that celebrities have done for years. I know, and it's a thing that we all want to see so much because it does show so much about somebody's life. When I saw Whitney Port's refrigerator, I was like, I saw a side of her that I did not know about. Did it make you like her more or less? I mean, it was... It was crisp bait. It's just like you open it up and it's just coconut water and regular water, you know? Smart. That's why she's hot. Let's go. Keeping food in the house, first way to be not hot. Even if it's some fresh hand-cut mangoes or something? No, of course. But, like, yeah, I mean, I just don't – I don't know. I'm just like – I mean, we saw what – I mean, Rihanna shows what happens when you – you can eat enough mangoes. That's what I'm saying. But if you gain 30 pounds of weight on pure mango, I say it's okay. Yeah, then you're really Island Bay. I think the mango diet is something I'm going to try. Is this a thing? Well, there's a lot of lore about Rihanna eating mangoes all the time. It's like a baby with her bottle or a kid with a iPad. I think that comes into play a lot, but I think she just unabashedly loves eating a mango, and she'll eat it not sliced into cubes in a little container from Erewhon, but just carrying it around like an apple and just eating bites off of it. I wanted to bring something up in relation to this. Yesterday I was driving down beautiful Melrose where a lot of people have now set up tables selling their budget streetwear brands on the weekends, which seems illegal, but you know.

Garcetti is nowhere to be found. Okay. So you don't like it when the e-girlies are doing it in New York? And I don't like it. You don't like it when the – So there was a man yesterday I drove by, and he was – let me just say kind of like an M&M type character, if you know what I mean. He was a white man who maybe was confused about that. Okay. He was selling a streetwear brand that had the word like loyalty in the name. Okay. But he was eating an apple in the style of a hot wing. Okay, okay. He was holding both sides of the apple, being like... I was at the stoplight, and I was like, bro, that ain't... So was it a drum or a flat, first question? It looked flat as hell, because there wasn't much left. Okay, for our listeners at home, when you were kind of pantomiming the eating style... Yeah, I would say it could be more akin to a corn on the cob in a cartoonish manner. But it's smaller, but it's small, like the size of a wing more than the size of it. So maybe that was when, not when Unk is eating a hot wing, but when you might see a squirrel find a chicken wing bone on the ground and then begins feverish eating it. The way he was daintily holding the ends, I was just like, bro. You know how men can't eat bananas in public? Right. You can't do what he was doing in public either. Okay, okay. So there's certain things that you just can't do. Apples, first of all, are bad. It sounds too gay to say the word heroin if you're black. You have to say heroin and things like that. It's just not good. It's just like there's just one way to eat an apple. It would be cooler if he was on his like, I got a knife out. I'm cutting slices with my thumb. That's hot. That's good. That's cool. That's like train hopper style. Yeah, exactly. Pull a dirty blade out of your satchel and just start. Yeah, the hobo style is much cooler than whatever he was eating. So eating an apple with two hands, and this was an adult person? I mean, he was definitely in his mid-20s. He was definitely high on kush, and it was fairly warm. The only time you should be eating an apple with two hands is when you're a literal baby and you aren't strong enough to hold it with one hand. I've just never seen anything like it before.

That's fucking crazy. I meant to text you about it, but then I was like, you know what, we'll cover this tomorrow. So, I mean, it's giving fetal alcohol syndrome. It is, really. I don't even know what kind of apple. I think it was a green one, too. That's nasty. Chris, I kind of do need to know. Certainly, we can assume safe money wasn't a cosmic crisp or an artisanal offering. No, but there was so little apple left, I couldn't identify. It's like a body that is so badly burned, you can't tell who it is. You have to get the dental records to find out who died. So back in the day when you were eating wings, which God knows how long, there's the wing debate about how white people leave too much product on the bone, as we'll say. How far were you on the scale? Because me, my white mouth was not... putting in work on that bone i was leaving a lot of product on the floor probably i'm probably gonna say that sadly i was probably leaving too much meat on the bone as well actually when i was in middle school before i the problem with the wing is it's like pizza crust if there's more well the crust is the best part real heads now if you leave crust that's crazy leave crust you're disgusting well you leave the the whole point is like if if pizza as well as wings, those are things that usually come in groups. Let me get a 12-piece. Pizza has a dozen slice, whatever. But if you just get one slice of pizza, you're eating the pizza, you're eating the crust, you're savoring it, you're making a meal out of it. If you just get handed one wing, you're probably going to put in work on that. Grown man BI on that thing. All kind of tendon blood vessels are going in there. Working the cartilage. You're leaving that thing. It's going to look like museum quality bone. But if you got 24 wet. If I'm staring down the barrel, I got 24 wet. Yeah, I'm probably not going to put in work. I need to speak on pizza as well. It's just like when you have your oxy. You got one oxy left. What's that going to do? Is that for your little sister? Okay, let's say you only have four oxys left. But like if you have.

If I have a duffel bag full of thousands of pills, I'm probably not going to be on my hands and knees in the carpet trying to pick up little pieces and crumbs. Bro, the amount of oxys and muscle relaxers that have fallen under fucking couches and ovens and shit in my life, that could kill a small child. I ain't digging for that. I got too many. My Whole Foods pill bottle is full. I don't need it. I'm just imagining back in the day when Chris was at his peak, peak pill popping. Throw your peas up. And the amount of wavy cockroaches in the Lower East Side area who are just wavy as fuck. Just gone. Just like, damn, is that cockroach dead? And you're like, no, he's vibing. He took off to go to Mars. He's just like, bro. Yo, bro, let's watch Spongebob. I don't give a fuck. Can we order ice cream on Seamless? Insomnia Cookies is open 24 hours, fam. Bro, I had milk for dinner. I don't even give a fuck. No, I need to talk about pizza. Oh, okay. So when I was in New York on Thursday night, I went and saw Sam Hine. We went for a drink at the Dime Square Hotel. Nine Orchard? Which was quite nice, I have to say. Incredible shrimp cocktail there. How much does a room cost there, like eight? No, I think it starts at five. Okay. But there was not really like a full – we didn't have like – we weren't at Corner Bar. We were at the regular bar, so it wasn't like a full menu. You had some Marcona almonds, olives. I had a great nut mix. There were some olives as well, a nice potato chip, shrimp cocktail, and then Sam got some sort of cured meat, I believe. Okay. He had a nice 21-year Benton Ham. Yeah, exactly. He was telling me all about his trip to Marrakesh for St. Laurent. Sure. And then I was like – Was that the Dusty Show?

Yeah. With the O-ring? Yeah, it was fucking crazy. And I was like, I'm hungry. I'm still hungry. He's like, oh, let's get a slice. I'm like, okay. He's like, let's go to. I love the city. Scars. Oh, no. And I said, you want me to get an Air Force One slice? And you know what I said? Instead of doing some Chris shit, I'm like, I ain't going to this shit box. I'm like, yeah, let's try it. Fuck it. I've never been. Interesting. I have no interest in this, but let's try it. And he's like, usually there's a line down the block at all times. I didn't realize that. That's true. There wasn't a line, and it wasn't that hot. So he's like, you know what? Let's get the full experience. I'm going to go get a seat at the bar. Oh, wow. You order the pizza. So I get there. Sam's ass is having a nice tall boy beer, which is pretty sexy on him, I have to say. Yeah, okay. Because you would expect him to be like, you know, is there a martini? Did he have to hold the can with two hands? He was able to hold the can with one hand. Okay. And the pizza was fucking good. Oh, shit. The pizza was good. This is like when a New Yorker goes to Courage Bagel. I'm like, bro. Bro, dead ass? Dead ass? No, but the pizza was pretty good. And it's not like I need to go back or it's like, oh, my God. But I was like, yeah. It delivered. Yeah, it's good. It's really good. I'm like, okay, I understand that it's in the dumb, cool guy neighborhood. And it's like they're playing big pun. You know what I mean? And the guys are so shitty. It's incredible how shitty they are. Shitty in what way? Like mean or bad? Yeah, they're just like, I got no time for this. I mean, in their defense, it's hot as fuck and it's small and they're just like drenched making pizzas for like white chicks in bra tops that like are going to be like, yeah. So I understand it's all justified. Are these San Marzano's? Yeah, it's all justified. But overall, I got to say, it was good. It was good. And it's also affordable. Yeah, totally. That's the good part about it because like Courage Bagel, for example, it's like you eat it and you're like,

Yeah, I mean, like, at first I wanted to be, fuck out of here, Uncle Pauly voice. But then you're like, you know what, it really was delicious. But the kicker is, you just ate an $18 bagel. Yeah. But if you go to Scar's Pizza, you know, a slice is three, four, five. Yeah, it's the same. It's like, it's more than a dollar, but it also tastes better than a dollar. Right, right, right. So you're kind of winning. It's like upside pizza or something like that. Yeah, exactly. Upside's really good. For my no-licions. upside is really good but yeah it was an interesting it was an interesting uh is and then i you know this is growth for you to you eating at scars pizza you some people are like damn he's slipping he's falling off but some people are like that's that is growth no i needed to i needed to the way that sam casually offered it just took a hot person to take you is kind of what the real crux of this is i didn't have to walk by three guys that look like big body bass you know i was with i was with a guy i was with a guy who looks And it made me feel like if you were strolling down the street with with newly single Imrata and she's like, oh, I just want to pop into Kith for one second. Are you going to be like, no, no, you got to pop into Kith Imrata definitely. But if you and I were walking down the street and we're like, let's go to Kith, you'd be like, absolutely not. I will sooner drive this spear into my eye. This is where you're wrong. I love to tap in with Kith unless there's a line, of course, because Kith, it's like going to the airport. It's where Jen Pop is in a certain section. I mean, you could go to the Sour Patch store and get the same effect. But they ain't got no Stone Island there. I always pick whichever line is shorter between Kith and Sour Patch is where I go. Last time I went there with Alex and Amardeep, we walked in. First guy that worked there was like, bro, I love the pod. And I was like.

Oh, great. And you're like, is there a way I can unsubscribe you from my podcast? Yeah, is there a way? I'm just here for the soft serve, so if you could maybe, if you saw me. That means he's probably listening to this right now. If you saw me, you didn't see me. Yo, Gunner, if you're listening right now, shout out. Gunner Hard ER. This is a different kind of Gunner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was a, but. Gunner who didn't get a RICO charge. Yeah, it was a, it was a, and then I also on the way home, I saw a commotion at Susan Alexandra. Okay. And I popped in. It was bead night. When is it not? Good point. But there was all these chicks in there beading their own stuff. And I just saw Ella. Sometimes I beat my shit. I beat my shit. Oh, bead. With a D. Got it. So I got to tap in with Susan and Ella and saw all these chicks beading. And I just. I didn't have time to bead myself because I was like, what would I make? You know what I mean? Imagine being a single fellow walking by. You got 38 chicks in there beading. Obviously, they're all single. You're shooting fish in a barrel. I mean, dead ass, there was a woman in there with a cat. So that tells you kind of. Well, she doesn't get a glass of glue glue and a paper cut. That ship has sailed. But you go in there, ladies. I know it's hot out. I got some Nancy's Fancy's gelato. You better have some fucking Larry David charms left. God. Yeah, what else is on this little fucking list? Yeah, speaking of Jim Shark, we don't need to talk about Can't Talk Busy Being Hot article. That ship has sailed, right? Yeah. Emily Ratajkowski is broken up. My condolences to her and her family. We'll turn this thing around. I think she'll be just fine. She's posing with Mel Ottenberg on Instagram, sharing their abs off together. Oh, okay. I'm jealous. Yeah, actually my trainer, yes, the last time we were training on Friday, I was deep in the pocket connecting with my mind and my body. The frequencies were lit. And he's like, all right, you're looking good. Now all I need you to do is tell your brain to send more blood to your abs right now.

And I was like, that's why I pay you money. You're a cosmic. Are you saying that's something Emily Ratajkowski has kind of mastered based on what her abs look like? One would assume. I mean, look at those things. They're crazy. I think that's actually something we call genetics, but I don't want to ruin the flow with the trainer. Bro, genetics are made in the kitchen. Hey, where I come from, genetics are made in the kitchen. One more to Dell, please. Does Hunter say stuff like that? Or he doesn't get that? spiritual. No, he's big on the breathing because with heavy lifting especially, it really works in a way that's kind of shocking. If you feel like you're about to die with a bench press and you really do breathe in on the way down and on the way up, you can get a few extra reps. Yeah, my trainer tells me to think of my core stomach area as like a piston cylinder in like a nice I like that he thinks I know what that looks like, but yeah, go ahead. For a non-electric car, they have these things in them called motors or engines. Okay. And the piston, it's a, just think of it as a tube where it's very pressurized. Okay. And one thing's moving in and out, in and out, and there's always air being sucked in and sucked out. So it kind of makes the car move. Yeah, but the whole, the catalyst for it working is that. the air is always in there, kind of like a Chinese finger trap. You know what I mean? So there's always tension going on. So basically the point is never, if you pull a Chinese finger trap all the way, it just gets stuck. It doesn't work. And if you were to pull a piston all the way out of the cylinder, then the air is released. So he's trying to tell me, like, never just do, like, 100%. In, 100% out. He's like, always do 80% in, 80% out. Keep a bull in the chamber. Keep one in the chamber, exactly. And that way you can get this sort of piston, because the whole point of a piston is once it gets going, it'll perpetually go on its own. So it's always boom, boom, boom, boom. And then if you go fast enough, that's how you peel out. You're not paying this guy enough. I mean, I'm teaching him, though, because he has to train other people.

and he might not be as good as talking and creating these visual analogies as I am as a professional paid talking head. That's right. So we should be sort of paying each other, but he tells me all these things, and then I feed it back to him with a four-word sentence that sums it up, distills it perfectly. That he can take and kind of use. He can take and he can use that, yeah. That's good. That's a nice relationship. We call that a trade, where I come from. Yeah, it should be trade. Yeah, we'll see. But yeah, I'm excited to go work out more, Chris. Not today. No? I'm actually not hungover. I don't know how. I drank everything. I did my run this morning, and I got to tell you, it wasn't. Those LA mornings where it's a little overcast, it's tough to motivate, Jason. Luckily, I put on my District Visions that have an orange tent, so it makes it look sunny. That's a trick for all you real heads out there. That's a brain hack. So what else? We have some good pods this week, I think, right? There are good ones after. We have good pods forever if people show up on time. I need to go hit the sauna, Chris. You got to sweat out this. Oh, no. We still have 10 more minutes to go. Fuck. Well, if you want to hit the sauna, you can go ahead. I'll finish this thing myself. No problem. No, no, no. Let's talk about... No, because we haven't talked about Kid Cudi and Kanye West at Rolling Loud. Duh! And I think I've... In another shocking revelation, Kanye West's 4D chess troll of Kid Cudi almost makes me like him again. Yeah, it is... Let me read you something. Well, yeah. While you pull that up... I was talking to Jimmy Jolliffe, or no, Jimmy Jolliffe, Stone Fruit, Steve Austin on Twitter, tweeted, Kid Cudi getting booed off stage, nature is healing. But my sort of rebuttal is this is the first time I've felt really bad for him and sympathized for him for some reason. I don't know why. Just seeing a man, just an adult person who's trying their best.

Just getting hit in the head with a bottle. And in any situation. I don't think the bottle throwing was necessary. But this guy, somebody, Nick Weidenfeld, posted this, and I'm going to read. Pull out as Rolling Loud headliner, making Cuddy go on as replacement. Have his fans boo Cuddy off the stage, causing everyone to go to Dirk's set instead. Go on during Dirk's set and play his collab with Kid Cuddy. Bro, that is unbelievable. I don't even know what their beef is about. Well, I think it's fake, obviously. just to sell stuff. They're both unhinged. They're both like not there. Yeah. Well, I want to know why. I mean, there's a lot of holes in this that don't make sense. Kid Cudi replaced Kanye on Rolling Loud because Kanye pulled out. That's right. So he's like, I'm not going to play this festival. but I am going to go and hang out there all day backstage? I don't think that was something people were aware of, but I think that maybe he was like, I don't want to perform. That doesn't mean I don't want to build in Miami. I love mandolin. I'm happy to go. There's a Panther coffee next to the hotel. I might as well just hang out. If I'm whoever owns Rolling Loud Festival, at this point, you're letting your nuts hang. You're doing more numbers than... many other festivals all over the world. Yeah. You got some swag, you have some power, you have some influence. And if I do whatever, you know, however difficult and think of how annoying it is to book Kanye West for your festival. The amount of bullshit you have to deal with. Yeah, but I think the problem with that is if you do that for a living, you have to know that there's a chance that this is what's going to happen. For sure. For sure. But, I mean, just to get to the point where you agree upon it and all of his asks and all of his weird shit and production and this person can't look me in the eyes and, you know, like it makes Morrissey look like a fucking homeless guy. It's like so insane and you finally get the deal done. You sign all the paperwork. You send the million-dollar deposit and then a week before, he's like, oh,

Because I'm Kanye West, I'm obviously not going to play this festival. You losers. And you sold millions of dollars worth of tickets because my name was on it. And now I'm pulling out. Here's the thing. I'm saying I'm pissed as fuck. So if Kanye West walks in, you know, it's like calling in sick to work. Like you work at Chuck E. Cheese and my fucking pizza guy calls in sick. I look over and he's playing video games in the lobby. And I'm like, bro, what the fuck? If Kanye West walks into my festival after canceling. i'm like get the fuck out you can't bro i'm kicking him out you're out of your mind the the way that celebrities are worshipped that would never happen second of all i actually have a theory that no one sells tickets to festivals like i think rolling loud people want to go just to go i don't think they're really that concerned with who's playing because if you look which is which is amazing yeah you want your festivals if you look at the lineup it's just like 200 names. It's like, it doesn't really matter. I don't think, I think it's just about like the vibe and there's going to be, it'll be fun. 200 names, 178 of them work at the mall. Yeah. You don't know who this is. So I think it's like, I think that little piss pants, you can't, you can't, there's not much you can do in this situation. And I mean, it kind of works in their favor that it just made the festival even more lit. Cause every story is mentioning the festival where it wouldn't have before. I'm saying if nobody stands up to Kanye, he'll keep walking all over and laying waste to the music world. Yeah, no one will ever say that. There's too many people that still are like, he's a genius. He changed my life. Until that fades out, until people can get over Workout Plan being their favorite song, I think we're going to still be dealing with this. But this is the coolest thing he's done in years. Do you think that it really was orchestrated this way, or do you think it coincidentally ended up in this? Was this like a sporadic, organic thing that happened, or was it actually a 4D chess move? Like, I'm going to play, I'm going to get booked on this, I'm going to drop out, and then I'm going to come on with Lil Durk, and the set times are aligning. No, I don't think it was 4D chess. I think it truly was like, I don't want to do this because I'm just not feeling it today.

I'm busy doing Gap. I'm already in Miami. Or the plane's already going to Miami. So fuck it. And then it's like, oh, I saw Dirk at the hotel. That's definitely what happened. I don't think it was orchestrated. But it makes him look so petty, which there's nothing cooler than doing that. Especially to Kid Cudi, who is like a pussy. And everybody's like, Kid Cudi changed my life, blah, blah, blah. Like, Kid Cudi quitting? That's pussy shit, bro. Well, they're both pussies. You're getting paid at least, I wonder what he got paid. Definitely less than Kanye, but you're headlining this festival. Look, Limp Bizkit can handle a couple bottles. You should too, bro. He's probably getting $7.50, something like that. $7.50 when you got one song? That's pretty good. Bro, I was at H Mart yesterday buying my little bean sprouts, and original version of Day and Night came on, and not going to front, it was kind of hitting. Bro, that's his one. We didn't need verse three, but. No one needs verse three of most songs. It was hitting, but. It's also like if you're, if I'm a famous person and I am getting paid a million dollars to play a festival that I probably don't want to. Because the Rolling Loud crowd is a feral collection of criminals, you know? It's the dregs of the dregs. Yeah. It's just nasty motherfuckers. America's nastiest motherfuckers. It's like the Juggalo, like the ICP Juggalo, if they weren't good people, you know? That's a good point. Nasty motherfuckers. So if I'm Kid Cudi, I'm just busy like... getting my dick sucked, wearing luxury clothes all day and living in the hills and eating Erwan every day. I don't want to get on a plane and go to Miami and perform Folsom County Blues to 300 people washing. I wonder if they had Nego call him directly to ask him or if it was just the regular promoters to get him to do it. So if I'm Kid Cudi and all I want to do is go home and back to getting my dick sucked by models and smoking weed in my mansion,

Somebody throws a Heineken at my head. That's a good at a jail free card. No, you're right. That's a, all right, I'm out. And, and the check cleared and that's it. And like, well, well, you can't do that. Well, like I was physically assaulted on stage. Yeah, I'm sure. Smell you later rolling. I'm sure he's good, but I don't know. It's just like, I would of course want to quit, but I just think that I don't know. I just don't understand kid Cuddy's. The fact that that's who they call is crazy. But then at the same time... That's why I think that this is all fake. In the group chat, I was saying this is something that was orchestrated by Vince McMahon. This is a WWE-level pettiness. I think the real issue is that there's not that many. Big rappers. There's not. There's just not. There's as many big rappers that can headline a festival as there are barber therapists in the shortage area. There's ten guys, maybe. You probably already had four of them. And the other four said no. So this is like who you got. Kid Cudi was at home. Like I said, he was organizing his bait by color. And he was available to touch the stage. Yeah, I mean, that is truly what it probably is. There's nobody to play. Yeah, there's a dozen names, and they're like, well, Megan Thee Stallion, Post Malone. You know, it's just all there, and they all just play every festival forever, and that's it, until they go out to pasture. So, I mean, I guess, like, I'm sure they had five people to call, and four said no, and Tony was like, yeah, fuck it, I'll do it. I mean, it has nothing to do with the music. It only has to do with... The customer feeling like they got a value for their $398. Totally. Their $400 ticket, their $8 Dasani, you know. It's like, I'm sure the vodka crayons are, you know, $15. And you know what? It's not Tito's. Oh, definitely. It's not Ocean Spray. No, no. That's some Costco. They got Kroger crayons. All right. It's Florida. It'd be Publix crayons. All right. How long gone? Thank you for joining us. We'll be back next week. Or, well, this week.

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