304. - Chris & Jason

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts. or watch on YouTube. More of the story. Don't have a baby with a chick that got face tattoos, all kinds of face, you know, seven face tattoos. All kinds of face tattoos. How Long Gone Live from Glendale. Jason was doing his little busset stretches when I walked in. What is a busset stretch? You were doing stretches that I would consider inappropriate for men to do. Because it looks... Well, I mean, some men should do it, but I think you claim to be attracted to women, and what I saw you doing looked like you were trying to bait males. Every female listening to this podcast right now... If they're like, hey, would you like your male partner to be flexible and have good mobility skills? Who's going to say no? Fellas, is it flexible? Flexible to be gay? Is it gay to be flexible? A little bit of both, I would say. No, no, I'm kidding. Shout out to Hunter, your personal trainer, who is more flexible than you, me, and the Russian 15-year-old gymnastics team combined. And that's dirty bulk, not clean bulk. The difference between you and Hunter is that he also is in good shape. He can lift heavy weights in addition to... spreading it wide open to get those hamstrings loose. You should work on a little bit more of that. Hunter, I mean, those in glass houses, Chris, because Hunter, your personal trainer, is a perfect combination of you and I. Damn. The yin and the yang. I'm in the white, and you're in the black. Pardon the pun. I'm in the white. Mobility, flexibility, attribution points, like if we're Magic the Gathering characters. I got all the wizardry. I got the sorcery.

But if it's hand-to-hand combat, oh, please, please. No, don't hit me, sir. And you're the other way around. Yeah, that's right. If it's like we got to call on a drone strike, we got to do some, like, five-level D strategy type shit. That's what you call me? You're like, me no no, me no like numbers, me no like anything. That's not true. Me punch good. I count in 45-pound plate increments. So I just kind of, that's how I kind of do my math. Okay, so like the Fast and the Furious, that's I live life a quarter mile at a time. Exactly. You live life a 45 plate at a time. But for those paying attention closely, 5D, the way that I, Mobility Hot pays attention, they know that that 45 plate is actually just a thick 10 that we use. No, no, I don't use bumpers, bitch. No, I don't use bumpers. My shit's steel. My shit's steel. Bumpers have a place in the gym, of course, but not for me personally. And that's no shade to Bumper Hive. I would never want to do that. The Olympic-style plates are beautiful. Yeah, what year did the weights become deceptive on video? Because when you would watch weightlifter videos, it would be like, this guy's throwing up, or gal throwing up. Here's 10 plates, and you're like, that's got to be so heavy, just the steel clanking around. And now you see an 8-year-old girl deadlifting 17 plates, and you're like... Is this person 90 pounds and benching 500? I'm sure somebody's going to inform us, give us a lot of information we don't care about. I don't know when that happens. What are these plates made out of? Are they biodegradable? No, no, no. You can get a .45 that looks like it still has that rubber. It's better for when you're doing really heavy shit and you have to drop it. It bounces versus thudding. I think it's to protect the floor. You know, a lot of people... A lot of podcasters are getting into 3D printed guns. What podcast? At what point... I've only listened to the number one urban podcast in the game, Joe Budden. They've never talked about... They only talk about real guns. Look, Joe Budden has real guns. He likes 3D gaming, but I don't know if he's... What podcast is getting into 3D printed guns? That was kind of a joke. Oh. I mean, you know, I guess maybe like Contain or Wet Brain. Oh, okay. Like the kind of nihilistic...

young people world. I didn't know if you were talking about, like, damn, it's crazy that Radiolab is getting into that. I thought they went a different way. Radiolab has definitely done a bitch-ass episode about what are we going to do? What if Ira Glass pulled up with the 3D Draco? Act one. He said, oh, Maren, you think you're going to unseat me? Block the gates. And the 3D gun, it probably goes like... Do you think a 3D gun also has a built-in silencer type vibe? I think it's quite the opposite. Until the technology catches up. Nothing dampens that sound like the cold hard steel. But my question was, how long until we're 3D printing 45 plates and kettlebells in the dystopian future where the steel mill... I believe that the 3D printed kettlebell did make some sort of appearance during the COVID-19 pandemic. Really? I feel like I saw something like that. God damn it. Yeah. Which makes sense. I mean, I guess I don't know how to make it that heavy. I don't know how you'd make it heavy, though. Yeah, it would be more for ornamental use. Yeah, it's just like the way that you have your Joe Rogan monkey kettlebell in here as kind of like a... My board eight kettle club. I would call it art, but I don't want to overstep. I mean, well, it's functional as well as artistic. Well, it's nice that you built like a reinforced shelf to kind of keep it eye level. Because it's kind of – it's like some people have like a cross, you know what I mean, or a picture of Mary. But you have a Joe Rogan kettlebell. Joe Rogan 3D kettlebell, one of one. It is an NFT. It's uplit, of course. Of course. With the Philips color-changing light bulb. Oh, and you control that from an app on your phone. Brother, I could be in the Maldives. Somebody walks by my house. They see it in the window. It's a centerpiece. It's a statement piece. And I could, it'll go from blue to purple. This is a great segue to, to all the art that I saw yesterday. Cause I'm glad that as a collector yourself, I'm sure you would have. Yeah, man. I enjoyed CDMX art week where you put the skull on yellow and then put the skull on orange. And then you enjoyed freeze art week where it's, uh, here's different ways to wear a slutty top.

There were, look, the guests, look, I didn't go to the preview on Thursday. Shout out to Uncle Pauly. I'm sure he was providing a nice artistic ball tub. He was at a satellite fair. He wasn't at Freeze. I was at a satellite fair. It was a satellite fair at the Roosevelt Hotel, famously with the pool painted by Hockney. I didn't make it over there, but Tim and I yesterday. What a pool. Tim and I yesterday. Did you ever swim in that Hockney pool? No, I haven't. Do you ever just look out the window while you're beating it up and be like, damn. No. I'm holding hands with hockey right now. I think I've only slept and done Coke in the Roosevelt. Beating up the bundle. I haven't beat up much except my own nose. Oh, no. I've never done Coke in the Roosevelt. That's a lie. I was about to say, you've been there a lot. Yeah, America Run on Duncans, Roosevelt, literally Roosevelt's one of the most cocaine-filled places in L.A. The first time I went to the Roosevelt was cocaine. What do you mean? The very first time I ever went to the Roosevelt, I didn't even know what it was. There was an 80s nightclub around the corner from it. It was like Britpop. in one room 80s like dance hits we've all we've all been to one of those and then there's like the the third dungeon room where it's kind of like the shoegaze finger bang room every i know where i know where you ended your night well this one i i always i mean you start off by going into the main room check out the vibe going to the side they're playing suzing the banshees again no they're playing like This is the room where it's like, aha, take on me. Oh, like the real... Okay, okay, okay. It's like Tiesto on main stage type shit. And then the other side room is like a little more indie group, you know, Dandy Warhols. Okay. And, you know, maybe some old Beatles or whatever. And then the other... And then the finger bang room is just my bloody Valentine Loveless getting some fucking titty going. That's great. Nothing says getting titty going like a wall of sound guitar. Yeah.

But the funny part is, if you go the next night, it's the same exact thing, but with ravers. So, like, the main room is, like, hardcore, like, and then the other side. And then the make-out shoegaze room becomes, like, the goth, like, industrial kind of dungeon where you listen to, like, ministry. Unfortunately, industrial is a genre I've never been able to understand. You couldn't be further from industrial. I don't think you like it either, though, do you? Oh, I like industrial. That doesn't mean you could use a drill. It's a style of music. I don't take the vintage Mercedes out on a Sunday, whip around Mulholland listening to I Want to Fuck You Like an Animal by Nin. Don't get me started on fucking Nin. I mean, come on. We're not going to talk about Nin. But I used to love going to industrial clubs because goth hoes were the only hoes that would give me the time of day. Yeah, well, you're a fellow freak. You were just in a different freak zone. I live in the darkness, yeah. Yeah, you do. Release the bats. I live in the light. That's what I say right before I'm about to skeet skeet. Release the bats? About to release the bats. Don't bring up Marilyn Manson. So, yeah, Tim and I took the convertible over to the Beverly Hilton. Where the art fair was. Okay. That's where that was home base HQ. It was outside. I mean, it was like a big outdoor thing, but like a valet at the Beverly Hilton. And I guess the main thing was, yeah, there was some cool art and stuff, but the main thing, we're waiting for the valet at the end. We see Ric Flair, first of all. Like the actual wrestler? Yeah, wrestler Ric Flair. He gets in a car with a young chick, like a young, I feel like she was like a handler, but she was wearing like kind of hot, like lip injections, but wearing like a fake vintage Iron Maiden shirt, which is the most L.A. like, of course, that's who's picking up Ric Flair. Sorry, I just had some Laird go down the wrong tube.

Okay, this was not Rick's daughter. This couldn't have been a daughter. It felt like a handler. She felt like an assistant somewhere. Jose Canseco's daughter is a little turbo thought. Yeah, but Jose Canseco's daughter married a famous golfer, I think. She married more bread. But that's not the point. Fuck Jose Canseco. So then we look over. I'm waiting on the car. The car's taking quite a while, as you can imagine. We're not. They didn't keep it up front. You know what I mean? Did they give you the option? No, no option. I don't think they give you the option. I think you give them $50 and say that. When I went to South Beverly Grill the last time in the Tesla, they gave me the option. And I was like, I don't know. No, that's crazy. Obviously, you have to pay more for it. Yeah, but I think in an old hotel, I think you have to ask. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we look over. Melanie Griffith, Katie Couric together. Oh, shit. Which is pretty A-list, I have to say. I was just talking about Katie Couric at a different party. They looked over, obviously, but I didn't approach. They looked over. They stole a glance of Chris. They liked what they saw, but they said, I better not. I believe they like what they saw. They're like, that guy, he will ruin my life, child. I can't. Not tonight. Not again. I'm 65 years old. I can't go through this again. But that was a pretty big highlight for me. There was, of course, some cool stuff. Was there, though? Yeah, there was. Okay. So you did see some art fairs. I mean, all these art fairs, there's cool stuff. It's just like a shit show of bozos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But that's anything you go to, I feel like. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how you avoid that, really. I mean, we've been going out. We went out heavy this week. I think L.A. partying is back. We talked about this, and that, to me, the only thing I think about when you say that, is it's the them jeans renaissance is right around the corner well i mean shout out to our booking agents at high road touring but i i had a conversation last week sam yeah our agent at high road was like you know that i've been i've been helping tj with his dj career as well i'm like oh he told me and i'm very supportive of this

We've, we've go ahead. We've, we're going to green light. There's a couple events in the pipe, a separate them jeans page on high road. Now, just, just to handle the infact. I didn't know that. That's okay. That's a little further than I'd maybe like it to go. Well, you know, a few, like one or two. Sure. We don't need to build the page for TJ, but we're starting to get some steam. There's okay. There's a lot of steam coming in. I, I mean, as your manager. I'm obviously entitled to my percentage still, so I guess I do like this. I guess. I mean, it depends. I would like to have a look. You still have to advance for Golden Voice, just to let you know. No problem. I would like to have some oversight into the brands that we're talking to, just because I think I understand that a little better than you and High Road. The brands that we're talking to? Like Insomniac or Golden Voice? No, I feel like there may be some other stuff going on that you're trying to keep from me. Like there may be some branded activations. Oh, oh, oh. I'm not talking about your little festival gigs. H&M passed. They passed on you. Well, they said, yes, we want to book him. And then I said, price is going up. And they said, bye, bitch. We were hoping to do a trade of rayon tops. You're not interested in that? So we went out. I mean, you went to the Prada thing, and you said the music was good. Yeah, I mean, the vibe in LA, it's weird because the partying was obviously down during COVID, and it was sort of... Well, yeah, if you're not getting the invites, I understand. I mean, there were the ratchet house parties where people would get shot and COVID super spreader things. Tim, by the way, Tim told me he was at a house party in Glendale until 6 in the morning. I was like, what? Hey, man, it happens, bro. In Glendale? There's people that live in Glendale, bro. We got celebs. We got mansions. We got all of that. I'm in a mansion right now. Continue. There's no new clubs in LA. It's all the same. We redid Hyde, and now it's a different place. All the same old dusty bars and clubs, those are just still all we've got. Are you going to say no to the Harvard and Stone residency, or are you considering that one at least?

If I hit all of my production marks, I'm able to make upwards of $300 in one night. It will be paid by check, unfortunately. It's H. Wood. Are those whale cocktails? Yeah, that's what we have to do. I guess it's sort of been the same in New York where... clubbing has ceased to exist. Obviously, you still have the same old spots, the Paul's franchises, and then just taking over a restaurant and turning it into a social gathering place is what has happened now in the cultural elite cities of LA and New York. If you go anywhere else, if you go to Milwaukee, there's still huge dance clubs. Yeah, like regular-ass clubs. That never stopped, but in LA, it kind of stopped, I feel like. Honestly, I have a lot of theories about this because I think that business is particularly celebrity driven. And I think celebrities are maybe partying less, but also afraid to be partying. Yeah. Because they will be seen partying and that could cause problems with their income streams. Yeah, there's probably a non... gray goose claws in your kin euphorics deal no for real though like you can't be seen stumbling out of a club if you're like instagram is about wellness all his choice is going to be pissed exactly exactly like these brands and also if you're just like oh if you go out as a rapper to the club 50 50 chance someone's going to shoot you you know i mean literally i mean that's what that so i think that like it's like hey do you want to go to this like west hollywood justin bieber party and you're like that sounds like a pretty safe space, but it is not. It's not. I would still go, obviously, because I'm kind of risk. You know, I'm a risk taker. You're a risk taker. And you might not have a bounty on your head the same way any of our fallen soldiers. That's a good point. But yeah, I mean, I do think that I think we could be upon a renaissance of nightlife. And I think that people were premature about this like last summer when the mask came off. But I think now COVID is actually over.

and people are going to be out. I mean, this Prada Party sounded like a shit show. It was, it was. Well, I mean, I think that, yes, COVID is over, but also people have just been in COVID zone long enough that they're like, I get tested once a week for my job or whatever. I disagree. I think we've reached the point where regular people don't care anymore. We've hit a new ceiling where, like, it's not fringe to not care anymore. it's kind of mainstream not to care anymore. Well, I know that's a narrative that you're trying to push. No, I think that's true. I think that is true, but I don't think that's the majority. I think it's like half and half. I think half the people are just like, they're right on the borderline. There's like a very thin membrane separating them from that, and all it takes is one person to be like, yeah, let's just go to this party. And then you walk in and there's no mask, and you're like, should I take my mask off? And then as soon as you take it off, you're just like, I'm taking a risk. It's all good. I weighed the options and I don't care. I love weighing options. But I think that the parties, the evolution of it, it's like all a class type of system where literally and physically as well as metaphorically, the parties are going up into the hills. The way that the upper echelon of people hang out, it's like... You can no longer have a safe space or a comfortable space like a Delilah or a Mr. Nice Guy or whatever where these celebs could congregate and it would still be like a cool, you know, like the Viper Room back in the day or whatever. There's no solution for that now. You're going to get shot. You're going to get papped. You can't really be comfortable, so you have to go up into the hills. So, like, we went to this party for this agency. What's it called? Object. I don't know. I forgot what it's called. It's like a video production agency that my girlfriend works with sometimes. But anyways, like I was going up into a party. It was like up in the hills, like Beachwood Canyon, whatever type shit. And you go down some little windy street where it's like you could never find it if you don't have your ways or your navigation on. And I'm going down this windy little street.

this little tiny back road and there's only mansions and there's like a train of cars in front of me and a train of cars behind me like half of them are uber blacks half of them are teslas and it's all just people going to different parties and this is this was a wednesday night wednesday so middle of the week so I'm walking up to the... It's freeze week. It's freeze week. It's freeze week, but also, I mean, I've been going to parties in Hollywood for a long fucking time. Okay, relax, guy. Okay, we get it. We get it. You're a nightlife legend. We get it. But before, you'd be like, there's a party in the hills. I see. And then you'd be like, we're going to this party in the hills, and everyone goes to the Charlie Chaplin house or whatever it is. It's like a thing. But now, you go up into the canyons during freeze week on a Wednesday. And you hear echoes of different parties happening. Like there's one there. There's one there. And they're all in the canyon. And they're all having their own. And it's not just like, oh, Steve has some friends over. We're going to party. No, it's like a branded event. It's like this is for a company. This is the Kia house party. This is this agency's party. I checked out the Matches Fashion House. It was there. Yeah, there's the Matches Fashion House. It's the same shit. It's just like, all right, we're going to rent this house. And we can do whatever we want in here. And we have private security and we have a valet. Yeah. It's like, that's it. We're good. No, you're right. I mean. But, you know, and that furthers the class divide here that's crippling our nation. Oh, so this is bad? Well, it's. Or it's just the facts of life. I don't think it's good or bad. I think it may be. I mean. I mean, it's a reaction to the world that we're in, which to me feels like it's not a great sign. Or it's an unhealthy situation. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Where the elite and wealthy are literally forced to shelter and the tops of these mountains overlook. I mean, that's the way the class divide has always been in L.A., but the cultures used to all kind of mix together. And now it's just like further and further to where.

There's no people in the middle who just want to, like, kick it and go to the club. It's either, like, I'm going to, like, party at my shitty house in Compton or party at my good house in Beverly Hills. And that's it. I don't love house parties, personally. I like a house party. No. No, it's too. I need some. As long as it doesn't get out of control. No, I want some ground rules. I like there to be some bumpers. I don't want it to be, like, yeah, house party, we're doing whatever. I saw a guy going to a house party yesterday, Jason, and he was carrying. A 24-pack of Budweiser. Okay. And an extra-large bag of Cheetos. This could have just been like a five-year-old's birthday. No, bro. He had a couple homies with him. You could tell what they were going to do. A big old bag of Cheetos? That's what I thought was so cool. Curly or puff? Curly. Classic. Crunchy? Crunchy. That's the best Cheeto of all time. I agree. Plain Jane Crunchy? Unless you're south of the border, not to bring up Mexico again, but they have some other unique flavors. We're doing it in Mexico. Mexico is banned from this podcast. Mexico is embargoed on this podcast. No one can talk about Mexico. You white people have to stop going there. I can't unsee it on Instagram. What am I supposed to do? How do I avoid it? You're just going to have to unplug, bro. No, I mean. Maybe you can go march at the Capitol. I'll storm the Capitol to tell them that my influencer friends have to stop going to Mexico City. Enough. When Coachella happens, mask-free Coachella, when that happens, are you going to do a social media embargo? Are you going to go dark? I'm only going to post the picture that you take of me and Harry backstage. That's the only picture I'm posting. Number one golden voice listeners. I love each and every one of you people. I don't know. I'm trying to understand. I'm going to need an extra large golf cart. I'm trying to understand how we can go down, get there two hours before Harry. Bro, you're on your own with this plan. Get back that night. You're on your own with this plan. Why? You want to hang out? Because nobody goes. You want to be a part of this? Look.

Are you getting paid? Be honest with me. At this moment, I am not getting paid, but I am open to opportunities. I'd like to make it very clear right now. I'm not getting paid, but that doesn't mean I couldn't. Look, can I revolve? Can I learn to revolve a party again? Yeah. Can I play SZA? So you're saying if I paid for us to take a helicopter to Coachella, you wouldn't go with me? No, I'm saying the juice, it's just not worth it. Like Coachella, obviously it's a concert, but it's also a cultural event. That's the bad part. The cultural event part is the part I want to avoid. I understand. And I think that is awesome that that's the way you feel. And I'm saying that you're on your own. Do you hear me? Am I heard? You're being heard. You're doing the work. And I think you're kind of on your own with it. It's a little bit like... Because it's a fool's errand or it's just... No, I mean, because like... You'd rather hang. You want to kick it. It takes like a few hours to drive out there in traffic and then get in and check in and all that stuff. It sounds like not a great plan for me to do like eight hours of... getting there to watch Harry Styles, somebody that I don't really like that much, and then he plays for 45 minutes, and then you get back in a car. First of all, he's definitely doing an hour and a half as a headliner. He's got two great albums. You don't know festivals, sweetheart. That's a good point. Okay, I don't give a fuck. I'll do it on my own. I don't give a fuck. Just because you're the headliner doesn't mean you're playing last. There still could be people after you. Well, yeah, in some tents. I don't go to tents. I'm not going to some tent where there's eight CDJs and three guys from Europe. I'm good. Oh, come on. No, I'm all set. Don't come for the Swedish house mafia. No, I fuck with those guys. I fuck with those. Their new stuff needs work, though. Sorry, guys. Are you trying to get in the lab with them? I don't want to get in the lab with them. I want to executive produce them. I don't want to get in the lab. I want to be on the other side of the glass smoking a cigarette with my hand on the boards. I need another Pete's coffee.

Did somebody bring me a fucking Pete's? Look, all the ingredients are there. They just need a chef to put it back together and start making some dishes that sound good. By the way, that coffee shop that Benny Blanco told us about. Dayglo? Dayglo. I went and looked at their menu, and they had a Defund the Military drink that you could buy that was $7. And I went on Twitter, and I was like, I just looked at the coffee shop menu that has a drink called Defund the Military, and it's $7. And people were laughing. And of course, some fucking reply guy is like, day glow, and then has a picture of the coffee. I'm like, bro, that's not the point of this. I don't actually care. This is just really funny. This exists. And then someone is like, I worked at the location in Chicago. They fired me for this. It became this whole thing where they had to respond to this former disgruntled employee. And I'm like, can I not make fun of a fucking stupid named coffee drink? You guys have to relax. Just like Joe Rogan, you have to relax. Now that you have a platform, you have to assume some responsibility for your actions. Thank you. You can't just say, I'm just a tweeter. No, but I just can't believe. Guys, obviously I know what the name of the coffee shop is. If I wanted to tag them, I could have tagged them. Yeah, but when you put it up on, I guess it's like a ghost. It's not a ghost tag, but it's a ghost. You're putting it on Ghost Blast. No, but that's not the point. The point is that it's funny and it exists. Of course. That's it. There's no point. No one needs to say it's bad, it's good. It doesn't matter. They don't need to be alerted that some guy thinks the name of their drink is funny. Like, who cares? If it were only that easy. I know, of course, of course. There's a lot of people out there on the internet who have a lot of problems going on in their brain, and they see that and they go, Oh, that's Dayglo. I'm going to tag Dayglo. I still need to go. I haven't been yet. But that's why I was checking it out. Yeah, we got to go there mainly to get some Awan ice cream, coconut ice cream from our man Zen.

I mean, the place looks absolutely torched. Number one vegan ice cream in LA. The place looks absolutely torched. When Benny told me that, I'm like, how have I ever heard of this place? And I looked at it, and I was like, this is why I've never heard of this place. It's because it's like an Instagram. But I've heard it's good. Oh, I'm sure it's good. I mean, I'm sure the coffee is good. Do you guys have Instagram coffee? I don't even think it's $7. I don't even think that's crazy. I don't even care. No, you're more than happy to spend $7 on anything. I'll spend $10 if you've got something crazy for me. Does the defund the military? Latte. It has matcha in it. Okay. Because it's calming. It's like when Kendall Jenner went up and handed the Pepsi and they stopped the violence. I'm actually going to the Ukraine with a day glow to fund the military coffee, and I'm going to hand it to the soldiers and hope for the best. I predict a retreating of the tanks. Putin has already kind of banged my zell for this, so hopefully we can kind of make the flights work. Not only are we pulling out of this, I'm going to give Chris a nice little tin piece. So I'm walking around money. Putin gave me a little tin piece to get some more coffees. Yeah, I mean, I'm wondering if... proceeds of that $7 go towards... Yeah, of course. They responded like, we'd be happy to explain why. I'm like, I don't give a fuck about this. It's dorky. Naming something defund the military is lame as hell. Just give the money to the place that you want it. No one's going to order a drink because it's called defund the military. They're going to order it because they want it. And if you want to give a dollar of that to a charity that is working to defund the military, go ahead and do that. Go ahead and do it. I mean, what organization is that? I don't know. I hate the military too. I hate the cops. I hate them all. That doesn't mean I want to support that cause by buying a matcha. It's crazy. Do whatever you want with my money after you have it. Amen, brother. But yes, I did go to the nice Prada party, even though it was the day after I got back from Mexico. You were raw. I was raw. I mean, I'm still a little...

toe back if i'm being if i'm arguing it all the way a band yeah keeping it all the way a band i think your mental hasn't recovered either no what i said right there was a cool thing you're just you guys got to catch up oh i'm sorry i'm a little slow if i'm keeping it all the way a band and my insides are still a little you're keeping it a buck and this party started at 10 this was a this was a 10 to 2 and they said get there early because it's your entrance yeah the word Whenever you go to a party that is really busy, count the amount of times you hear the word shit show. Everyone just says security, the door person with the clipboard. So you're at a bad Chinese restaurant on Fairfax. Your words, not mine. Shout out to the Coens. I mean, it's a great party venue. I love it. So you're there. A thousand losers outside. It's no Bistro Nas. Prada spent dead ass half a million dollars. Like, it's crazy. Like, full build out, took over the parking lot. How many of those people deserve to get into that party? Chris, you can't be Hayden from outside the club. How many people do you think deserve to get into the party? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. How many people deserve to get into the party? Like, how many people were out there that had no business being there? You know what I mean? The party's from 10 to 2. You had to go on a website. You had to authorize your name and info. They sent you an invitation that was in your digital wallet like a boarding pass for an airplane. They sent you all the schedules and shit. They had daytime activations where you can hear some fucking people you've never heard of talk about the intersection of... Sure. It's called learnings, and you could gain from that. It's going to be how we create... safe spaces in the seamstress community. No, I think it was about art and maybe architecture and the intersection of those two things. Dude, I mean, I'm of the mind, and this is an unpopular opinion, but I think architecture is art. I don't think it's an intersection. Bro, don't do that. Not today, bro. I don't have time to unpack this with you. We don't have time. We only have an hour, so calm down. Yeah, this is some heady speed. Turn off your brain. So, like, nobody shows up right at 10. You're a fucking loser.

I'd be there at 9.45. I know. My chick's like, I heard that it was a two-day party. We went on day two. She's like, I heard day one was really crazy. We got to get there early. So let's make sure we get there no later than 11. And we went to this party before the house party up in the hills in some crazy-ass mansion, eat some shitty pizza, drink some warm wine, listen to some Too Short Blow the Whistle, and watch people with hair that see different colors. So Too Short Blow the Whistle is a song that, according to you, is the great equalizer among DJs? Like, that just gets played at anything, no matter what? Yeah, I mean, it's like... At a branded event. Anything that's like... Not for the heads. Any party that people are dancing at. Yeah, not like a super cool, actual cool crowd. But yeah, like any regular club that's just like a burger and fries on the menu. Sure. Everyone's going to love it. But I was like, damn, you go to a house party or a cool party for some agency where everyone is like a queer Prada loafer wearing person who has like a gold. tooth cap thingy and a shirt that costs $600. That's like from a AAPI designer. And it's all like, it's the cutting edge of cultural. Yeah, that sounds like the cutting edge. Yeah. But then. These losers got their shit on Depop. Shut up. But there's, yeah, but there's, and I'm like, play some crazy music. You guys are artists. You guys are shaping the. People just still listen to the same bullshit, the same. Look, I don't care how cutting edge you are. You want to hear Drake just like me. And that's the beauty of this world. But I mean, but make me like a distressed cumbia remix of the Drake. If we're all in this crazy party together. When we went to the Prada party, there was there was like a room where, you know, it was like a very kind of non-binary, open, sexual, poly pen, you know, whatever.

and and she was playing drake but it was like a a cool like funky yeah latinx remix and i was like all this shit is slapping you understood the assignment play some shit that people are gonna like but like make it different just sure don't make it the same like we're djing it So there's some worries in Minnesota. You recognize the song, but it's freaked. That's what you want. You want to hear the lyrics. You want to know it. You want to know the chorus. Literally the entire point of a remix is like, hey, this rock and roll song is good. I want. Are you talking about my man Z Trip again? What's up? Shout out to Z Trip. You invented the remix player. Maybe that's a bad example. Yeah. I love when you mash ZZ Top with Run DMC. That's just crazy. Look, Chainsmokers, their new album's coming out. They probably are going to make more mainstream EDM. I love drum and bass. I'm a junglist. I want to be able to play this Chainsmokers song in my jungle club. So you need a jungle remix of the smokers. I need a jungle remix so the junglist can enjoy it. That's the whole point of it, and that's what this person was doing. Nowadays, people make a remix because they need to take control and they use it as a branding and marketing tool. Now I feel like you're coming from Dua Lipa. Don't get me started. Well, she fired management. So it looks like it's a crisis. It looks like a crisis at Lipa. And I have a feeling. At Big Lipa? I feel like Big Lipa. I feel like maybe the management was like, this newsletter, we don't love this. Look, we're making millions, and the tour just started, but we've got to walk away. So they're like, all right, we've got the Elton John collab. We've got the video coming out. We've got this, this, and this. And then Dua's like, I went to dinner by myself and I wrote an essay about when you're at dinner, you can sit at the bar and read a book. Have you ever sat at the bar? It's like you're having dinner with yourself. And they're like, we have to record the video. We have the green screen. Wembley Stadium sold out eight nights in a row. And she's like, there's a new person who makes these coffee mugs that look funky.

crazy we got it right it's honestly so crazy to be that rich and famous and want and strive to be that normal in this way that's like bro you ain't you ain't living this this is let her be she wants to try to be normal i think she deserves to try to be normal unfortunately find a new way it's a square peg in a round hole i meant find a new way i meant to tell you so last night we went to the mark gonzalez opening at heavyweight gonz gonz and his chick Who listened to this podcast, Tia. Hello, everybody. Tia? Wait, Gons listens to this podcast? They pulled up in the Porsche SUV rental, which I love, white on white. But anyway, he said that you, he's like, your partner sounds just like this old skater, Todd Swank. Todd Swank. He said that you have a very similar voice to Todd Swank. Swanky. So we need to, I just want to do some research. I'm not familiar with Todd's work. as a as a skateboarder okay i gotta google him maybe we look the same no no no no no no no no you sound he said you sound no no no i understand that but i mean like when are we gonna hear you know unless todd swank has his own podcast the only audio we're gonna have of him is gonna be the sound that party was fucking that party was booming with guys that drink beer But I get there and Atiba is playing. A lot of 50-year-old, 52-year-old guys with really nice dickies on. Atiba's playing the Smiths. He's playing all my shit because nobody's there yet. Man, that sounds fun. It was pretty fun, but then we had to leave. It was going to get crazy. It turned 745 and you're like, I'm about to turn into a pumpkin earlier. And then we did Escuela and make sure that we see even more streetwear bros. Man, Escuela, it's not safe at Escuela. I mean, according to you, it's not safe anywhere because you're a suburban pussy now. Jason, you're not really from the ends like I thought you were. I have to go pee. Hold on. Want to make a podcast? Spotify's got a platform that lets you make one super easily, then distribute it everywhere, and even earn money. We like that. All in one place for totally free. It's called Spotify for Podcasters, and here's how it works.

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Yeah, I mean, just to hide alone. Exactly. So we walk up, ran into an old friend, Kesh. You know her? She has an infamous American apparel print, black and white, with some geometric shapes on there. No. She's a cool artist. Sweetheart. We ran into her, and I was like, damn, if this bitch didn't get in, I'm definitely not getting in. She has like 100,000 followers and is hot, and I'm like, 40-year-old guy from London. What's up? Who's playing tonight? I like Prada clothes. Oh, shit. I actually have a shirt from the brands. I should have fucking worn it. So I start seeing all these people who are like really, really cool and way more famous and young and interesting and dressed up who are all just like on the sidewalk like, I don't know what's going on. And we're like. Is everybody bonding over what a nightmare it is? Yes. So the outside becomes the party kind of. You pulled out your Beats pill and just started going in? You said, oh, you don't think I have my Beats pill on me? I have it on me. I can put my iPhone mini 12 into a cup and it gets so loud. It turns it into a fucking... The party can start anywhere with my Apple Mini iPhone 12 in purple. So I do that. I go outside, and I'm in the line, and the security is like, go over here, move back, go here, go left. So you go over to a security, and you can check in, your name on the list, and then you're able to go wait in the line. So you scan your boarding pass to wait in a different line because the party is at capacity. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Do you think the party's actually at capacity? Do you think they're lying to you? I think the party was at capacity, yes, but they always, when it's early like that and it's a VIP crowd, they always have to hold X amount of names at the door. Because Hunter Schaefer's going to be late. Exactly. You know what I mean. We already know what the vibe is. Even though they're literally tiny and don't take up any space, they still count as a person. You're, like, so small right now? I'm obsessed. But... So...

So you always hold some in case. Of course. This is spoken like a true nightlife professional look. I know how this works. But the problem was you have to enter into the smoking patio is where the entrance is. So you have to walk by the outdoor area where all the people are inside, and they're separated by a fence that's not very tall. It's like a four-foot little gate. And like that's where all the people who are in the party are at. And then all the people waiting in line outside our party are at. And it's kind of like a weird standoff of like, I wish it was inside. And then the people inside are like, I'm so glad I'm inside. Not like you losers. But then everyone started becoming friends. And then Cobra Snake was there and he started coming out. And he's like, oh, all the cooler people are outside. He's taking photos and everyone's hanging out. Anyway, I mean, it took maybe a half an hour, 45 minutes to get in. I had multiple people helping me. Shout-outs to my man, Jaja, the flirt. He gave me his vape when I was in a time of need. So you're basically just outside getting twisted and chatting. Yeah, I ran into 100 people I know. I ran into this guy. He's like, hey, I really like your energy. I run a Soho house for dog owners. He's showing me his deck. I'm getting business cards. Did you know I had two dogs? Is that the energy I give off? He's like, he probably smells my dog. He comes over and starts sniffing my pant legs. So you're making friends. You're doing some networking. But then when you finally get in. Do you let your hair down and order a couple vodka tonics? Yeah, it was all just like, as soon as we finally get in, there are people who are on the inside who are helping me, like, yo, Jason needs to come in. Yo, he's good. He's good. Yo, if you don't let Jason in, you're fucking up. He's good. He's good. It took a village for he's good to finally get me in. A lot of he's goods. A lot of he's goods. And then once you finally get it, it goes from this supreme gratitude, like we're all in this together, like brothers helping out brothers, no one left behind. And then as soon as you cross the line, the hair gets flipped back. I don't know this bitch. I don't know any of you fucking broke up. I've never fucking seen you. Fuck you. But it was kind of like getting into heaven, like the gates of heaven.

If instead you had to kind of fight for your way to get into heaven versus just being a good person. Well, I've been fighting my whole life to get into heaven. Bruno Mars voice. For so long. I plan to get there. So how long were you actually inside the party? 45 minutes. Well, we just needed to see it. No, I understand. Was there a gift bag at least? I mean, what's the takeaway? No, you go in, you know, all the bartenders and bussers and everyone is wearing. Prada clothing, of course, nice. The DJ is wearing – shout out to my man Vegan with a Y. He was up in there DJing in the Prada suit, gay baiting all over the place. That should be you. I don't want to hear Vegan. I want to hear him jeans. Vegan did a good job. I'm sure he did. But it was kind of like once you get in there, everyone was just in such a good mood, it didn't matter. It was a great party. I haven't been to a party like that where – You have to get in. It's hard to get in. Once you get in, it's kind of like a paradise kind of situation. So how many COVID tests did they give you? Or was it just kind of like a... No COVID tests. So the Prada mask, security gave you that? Or was it... No mask. No vaccine. No COVID check. No anything. The two places they don't check for COVID. Prada party in a parking lot? And that steakhouse we went to with Oberg. The steroid addict with the Jerry Curl security guard definitely was not checking my fucking QR code on my digital wallet. He was trying to pull out a little vial out of his fanny pack to make an extra 50. He was trying to either choke slam me or sell me a fucking eight ball. He had two modes. Oh, that sounds cool. Well, I'm glad it was fun. It was fun. Once you get in, you're doing a double cheek kiss. Everyone's just in a happy mood. Got to hang out with Jeremy O'Harris finally. He's a tall fella. Well, I feel there's a little competition there, maybe. You know, you thought you had a lot of hair. He does have very nice hair. What else do we got here on the old fucking phone there, eh? Yeah, we were talking about adult Disneyland. Is that true? Yeah, I just...

I think we were talking about it on the last pod. Yeah, but they're opening it. Briefly. They're opening. It's in Coachella. It's like the apartment development is in. The housing? Yeah, the housing. It's called like Cortino or something. Cortino. Cortina. I order that every morning. Whole milk. Cortino. This isn't right. It's a little too much froth. Yeah, I mean, I think that... It's supposed to be warm, not hot, but okay. The discovery, when I came to California, when you really get to California, L.A. specifically, and you start realizing the hold that the Disney Corporation has over nerds here, and the sticker, like the AP sticker on the back of the whip, the All Parks sticker on the back of the whip... Not Audemars. Ain't that AP. Shout out to Brent Trill. It ain't that one. You got two kinds of APs in this world. Yeah, you got all parks and you got bust downs. One of them is a very dry dick. But those stickers and the whole thing, like the Disney lifestyle is truly, I was listening to another podcast earlier this morning and he was saying, Tim Dillon was saying that the, he's like, think about it. Disney, there's no like document. There's nothing. Like, there's no, like... What do you mean document? Like, there's documentary. There's no, like, look... Like, at this point, like, there's a Boeing documentary. You know what I mean? You want me to watch four hours without a fucking plane? Like, no, I'm good. They don't show you behind the... You don't get behind the scenes of Disney. Like, that does not exist. That's the iron wall. Like, no one's getting behind... They're too big. It's too big. So just like, you know, pharmaceutical corporations... Yeah, you don't get back there. weapons companies and this cartoon company you don't get to see a big cartoon we don't even see the sketches there's no back of house did you watch the did you watch the annadelvy thing a couple episodes i learned recently that my chick has a spot-on impression of it you gotta i'll have her do a few bars oh i was getting pretty good but i have to hear it first he's fucking good and she's bad at all it's so bad it's one of the worst things on tv i've ever seen

Like it's kind of crazy. Like I don't think Shonda was the right person for this. Like can you imagine if somebody cool did it and it was like actually cool? Like if it was like the Zola people did it? But it just – it makes New York look lame. It makes scamming look lame. It like makes all this cool stuff look bad, which is like I feel like almost hard to do. That's almost how it always goes though. No, I know it should be. I know it's not going to be like – I understand that's not what it is. But I just think the whole thing was like, but I also watched all of it. There was a high level of potential. Yeah. And it didn't. But the problem, I think when I thought. It could have been so much more. When I thought back though, I was like, you know what? This story isn't that interesting. It's not. It's really not that interesting. Like, delusional chick scams men out of money is like, it's a magazine article. That's the thing. It's a magazine article. That's what it is. It should have stayed that. Nobody wanted to make a documentary about me, and I have a lot of unpaid hotel bills. I've walked out on a lot of checks in my day. You see my picture in the offices of multiple hotels and nightclubs all over the world. That's all it takes to get to fucking Sean McCall? It's just not good enough. It's just not good enough. I think everybody agrees it's not good enough, but I also think the reason that it's not good enough is the root story isn't actually that interesting. No. And it was captivating at the time because it was in real time, I think. But given some distance from it, it's like, yeah, this isn't that interesting. Even when the writer on the show is trying to explain to her editor, like, no, this is about this and this and this. I'm like, nah, it ain't. To me, it's similar to the WeWork thing. It's like, here's two people who are megalomaniac, insane people, lunatics, and they want to build... Like an exclusive club for people like them. Like she wanted to build a house that was actually cool with art. That's actually good. And he wanted to build a office that's actually cool with kombucha. That's actually good. And they both, you know, did some like fraudulent money laundering, tax evasion. But I think it's like.

You have to be like a one-track mind delusional person to be like a founder and raise that much money. That's like part of the deal. Shout out to all my founders listening. But it's like I don't find those people that compelling. I find them to be like the energy is scammer, and it has to be like that. But it's more of a testament to how stupid people with big money are and how willing they are to hand over cash. and look past any sort of red flags because they get bamboozled by this lunatic. Look, some people are just that good in the room. No, of course. I agree. I've been pitched out of some shit in my day as well. Your shorts are like money. I'll pitch you right out of them draws, boy. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see. You've done the pitching. You've made me enough where I can't refuse. You've done the pitching. I've been pitched. You've been pitched. I've done pitching as well, sure. I didn't know you had any capital to invest. What kind of people are coming to you, like, just so you know, when somebody asks you on the street for money, that's not like an investment in like a corporation. That's you helping out someone less fortunate than you. That's called ground floor. Oh, I see, I see. So you're saying, okay. I'm talking about for some less fungible, you know. You're saying you're trading, maybe you're trading services for a piece. That's right, less fiduciary. I see, so you're not super liquid right now. But you can offer three DJ sets for a small percentage. The term sheet is not heaps liquid at the moment. It's not heaps liquid. So you're not – okay. I understand. So Anna Delvey didn't approach you, but someone like that could approach you? I could have – I'm a big advocate for sweat equity because it's all I've got. Okay. So you're saying that – But I could also do some light plumbing work. That's what I was going to ask. I was going to ask if maybe you were like, look, if I can get 0.5%, I'm willing to do demo for at least a week. Oh, I'm doing demo all day. It's not a problem for me to do some demo. Doing demo, it's actually therapeutic for me. I'm not afraid to get my hammer out and start breaking down the walls. You 50-day boys. Break down the walls. That's the demolition anthem. These cupboards have to go.

I'm a big proponent of sweat equity because that's all I have. So now we're going to go play tennis, Chris, and it's the first time that you've played tennis in months. So you have a crippling ankle issue? It's not actually crippling, but I think the mobility aspect, like the... the quick movements from side to side. Strafing. Yeah. Or what worries me, but I've been doing some little rehab exercises. I'm finally able to, I'm running again on the treadmill. Like I can do a 15, 20 minute and it's like sore after, but it's not a mile or a minute. No minute. No, not yet. I'm just doing a light 20 miles. Now I'm back, but I'm interested to see how it feels. I'm going to do your little, I'm going to do your little warmup, which we're going to go hit the sled today. We're going to go pull, pull some meat around. Can we do that on the court? No. It's a metal sled. Oh, it's metal. I didn't know if it had like. So where are we going to do that? We're going to the park. So you're saying we're going to the park first and then have to get in the car? Yeah. We're only going to do it for like a half an hour. Do you have two or do we have to switch off? We only have one. We'll switch off. But I have an extra kettlebell. So while one person's dragging steel, the other person, you can do some kettlebell swing. Jason, I've already done a full workout this morning. Okay. Hot shot. No, I, you know, Hunter had me doing a hundred swing warmup, a hundred swings, single arm swings, a hundred single arm swings. So you switch off and you're trying to do it under five minutes. How many pounds though? It was a 45 or 55, 45, 50, something like that. But it was, I got good at it, but like I was, uh, it's a challenge. When he puts the phone up and just starts the timer, you know, and you're like, oh, that's what you want me to look at? Okay, great. So one arm swing through the legs, boom, and then switch to the right arm, boom, left arm, boom. You try to do 105 minutes? You break in between, you know what I mean? Oh, so you do 100 left arm, then 100 right arm? No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. It's 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. Got it. But I'm just saying like.

I got it in four minutes at my peak, but it was like I was gassed. So you're really cranking that. But you've got to worry when you're doing a speed test like that. I'm a form queen. Well, that's why Hunter's there to make sure the form is correct, which he taught me a lot. I see people now doing kettlebell swings, and I'm like, damn, everybody does this wrong. It's crazy. But also everyone has a theory or belief of what is right. No, for sure, for sure. I trust a professional that I pay money to personally, but I could maybe be swayed by a YouTube video. No, I mean, I've just seen professional kettlebell trainers be like, this is how you do a kettlebell swing, and there's definitely multiple variations and ways of thinking. With the single arm, there's like the wrist bends to the inside, which I found quite helpful. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. Which I guess is part of the process. But I'm excited to get you out onto the sled and get a little, do some dragon, see how it works for you. Now that I've been sledding out there, there's a community of people that are there to support me. Are these animals or humans? It's both. But when you're a seven-foot-tall guy dragging a sled around a park by himself, often edible, people are like, I've got to see what's going on. I have to see what's going on. It's like older Armenian guys being like, If you put some wheels on that thing, it'll be easier to drag. I'm like, that's good stuff. That's good stuff. There's also, like, the pussy, like, skinny dad who's, like, there for his kid's little league game who's like, what do you got there, a couple of 25s? And I'm like, there's 120 pounds, bro. And he's like, all right, looking good. Is there a possibility that there's video of you? Oh, yeah. That has been posted to social media sites making fun of you? No, I think I'm probably on the Nextdoor app. Like, look out for this guy. Look out for this guy. He could break your window with one of these kettlebells. There's this one grandma who trains her dogs, like, professionally. Like, Westminster dog level shit. You know when they do the dogs that do the obstacle course? Yeah. She has these two kind of, like, lassie-ass looking dogs. She pulls the car. Of course, it's a Subaru. She pulls the hatchback up to the parking lot. Gets out of the car.

She alone walks or gets out of the car, hits the remote to open the back of the hatch. The two dogs are sitting in the back of the car. You know, they're healing at ease, as it were. And then she walks all the way out into the center of the park. And then she does like a, like blows a whistle and does a call. And then one of the two dogs runs out of the back, sprints to her feet and then just sits at command. And then she does the second one. The other dog comes out and then hits it, closes the thing. And then these dogs start doing all these crazy maneuvers. Yeah, that's impressive. It was sick. But every day I'm out there, she yells at me like encouraging words. That's nice. But she was like, how much weight is that? And I'd be like, oh, it's this much. And then I would get a bigger weight. And she's like, oh, you got 120 now. Next time I see you, you got to do 150. I'm like, look, lady, I'm not going to jump up 30 pounds every day. That's not how it works. I'm not one of your little puppies. And now she's like, where's the 150 at, bro? I'm like, bro, I was just in Mexico. So you're going to have to fight her? Did you listen to the podcast? Are you going to have to fight her? I'm not going to fight an old woman, but I'm going to give her, I'll slash her tires. That's fine. If she thinks that she's going to drive to the park tomorrow without a catalytic converter on her fucking outback. She's in for a treat? No, I'm excited to get out there, and I'm excited to see how I hold up. Yeah, me too. I mean, honestly, sorry, I've got to eat a little edible now. We're closing out. But honestly, dragging this sled around for an hour every day has pretty much cured me. Of all the bullshit I've done over the last year to try to fix my wonky hair. You've done a lot of bullshit. I know. This has been the thing where it's like... Did you find this on... Was this on one of those Instagram accounts? This is the knees over toes guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. His main thing, you either walk backwards on the treadmill or you do this sled thing. The sled thing is better, but I didn't have a sled. There's not one in the gym. So I'd walk backwards on the treadmill, but it's kind of boring and it gets old. So I love just... I spent $100. I got this sled and the park's five minutes away. Less than that.

And I just go out there in the sun. You're sweating. I'm starting to get a tan again. Do you see how tan I look? Yeah. It's great. LA's back, baby. And once I do that, my cardio is done. You feel strong. Yeah. Like pulling and pushing weights across. You feel like you're building. That's all it is, baby. We got to do some pushing. We got to do some pulling. That's what makes us strong. But it's that they're real strong. And then when I go to Equinox. You know, anything on top of it is already cake. I can just be like, you know, I'm just going to like stretch for an hour or I'm going to do some kettlebells or I'm going to – whatever it is is just like a bonus. I like you leaning into your cardio because you're not a real cardio cat. I know. I'm leaning into it now. It's good for you. It makes you feel good. It's a different feeling. It's a different feeling of accomplishment. But I like this cardio because I move slow. The heart rate is still good. You still get huffing and puffing. But you move slow, which is good for me. And it's like a cardio that – Definitely makes you stronger. Jason? Because when you're doing your fruity little wind sprints, you know, because when I'm dragging that, my pecs are exploding. You're showing me your pecs, and if that's an explosion. Well, I'm not doing it right now. Oh, I see. You'll see it at the park. Because it's weird because your pecs, they kind of go inward. Like, they don't go out. The shelf is more. You got to go in before you go out. The shelf is more recessed than I think it's. There's peaks and valleys. Oh, I see. It's called dynamic range. So it's like a mountain range across your chest. Without the dark, there is no light, Chris. Thank you for that. All right. Well, thank you guys for listening to How Long Gone. Thank you to all our sponsors this week. MatchesFashion.com, Prada, Soft Services. Laird Superfoods. Genghis Cohen, Laird Superfoods. I came and began. Freeze Art Fair. We've just had such a big week. Make sure you use the promo code GONEVIP at checkout. Whenever you buy any art from the Freeze Art Fair, you'll get 20% off all the Picassos. Have you been looking at that Julian Schnabel? Have you been eyeing that Schnabel? Get 20% off with the code GONE. Just give it a try. Just give it a try. Look, we don't want to pressure you, but it's fun for everybody. We'll be back with more podcasts next week.

Jason and I will be at the On Air Fest. On Air Fest. So if you're a fucking dork, you know where to get tickets to that. Yeah, this weekend, the 25th of February, in New York City. Actually, not New York City. In Brooklyn, at the Wythe Hotel, there's a podcast convention festival thing called On Air Fest. You can see a bunch of dorks from Dorky Podcasts. Dr. Jane Goodall and How Long Gone, all under one roof. There's two VIPs. Well, three. Me, Jason, Dr. Jane Goodall. Everybody else don't even recognize the names. I mean, it's a murderer's row. Dr. Jane Goodall, she's a beast. I believe that. I believe she's a monster on the mic. I used to see her at Cluckers. Murderer. Bro, when she has this bit about saving this one gorilla, that's fucking... I saw Dr. Jane Goodall at Cluckers in Tampa. Ha, ha, ha, ha. There's ten people, bro. Ten people in the room. Still murdered. Okay, bye.